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12-28-2009, 08:51 AM
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ARCA: " Girls join the good old boys "
" ARCA test shows that more girls want to join the good old boys "
AutoWeekRacing.com
" If the ARCA series is a preview of the NASCAR field in five years, the December test at Daytona International Speedway suggests that there could be more female drivers in big-league stock car racing. Nine female drivers participated in the test and two more were on the entry list. "
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...SCAR/912289998
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I cannot see why females cannot be competitive in this male dominated sport. Driving a stock car isn't like playing football where size is all-important. Several women have done very well in drag racing, no reason why they can't do the same in stock cars or F1. I think the draw back has been getting them involved at a very young age where they have a chance to learn at the same time as the boys.
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Upper body strength could be an issue for them. Drag racing is far less physically demanding than driving 500 miles in a cockpit at well over a 100 degrees. These drivers are "atheletes" in every sense of the word.
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Upper body strength could be an issue for them. Drag racing is far less physically demanding than driving 500 miles in a cockpit at well over a 100 degrees. These drivers are "atheletes" in every sense of the word.
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I never thought of AJ Foyt as an "athelete", and that was back in the days before power steering.  
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Upper body strength could be an issue for them. Drag racing is far less physically demanding than driving 500 miles in a cockpit at well over a 100 degrees. These drivers are "atheletes" in every sense of the word.
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Ernie, I do agree. However we are talking about stock cars with power steering going around oval tracks, not road courses where they must shift gears constantly. Also, don't forget that this is NASCAR where the drivers get a rest break every 15 or 20 minutes while they follow the pace car around for 10 laps as they look for a mysterious piece of "debris" to pick up. 
I am not saying that just anyone can do this but Mark Martin is 50 and still going strong. These cars are difficult to drive but pure strength isn't as important as in many other sports.
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Upper body strength could be an issue for them. Drag racing is far less physically demanding than driving 500 miles in a cockpit at well over a 100 degrees. These drivers are "atheletes" in every sense of the word.
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Yes they are and they had better be in very good physical shape to be halfway competitive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did 3 laps as a passenger a few years ago at Daytona at about 160mph and can't imagine doing that for 3 hours straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know it's not NASCAR, but if anyone thinks racin is easy, they are welcome to get behind the wheel of my 65 Mustang Coupe road racer for 15 laps on our 1.8 mile/14 turn road course.....Afterwards tell me how easy it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! Much less with 25 other cars wheel to wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even on 50 degree days, after a 15 lap race, I come out of the car soaking wet with sweat and for me anyway, the concentration level you must maintain is more demanding than the physical aspect of driving the car..........
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Ernie, I agree. Especially if their power steering go's out. Could you imagine that happening at Bristol or Martinsville to these young ladies.
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Point taken John and there is some truth to that. I suspect "back in the day" the good old boys just sweated it out and all of them were beat up by the end.
I recall Richard Petty commenting on how he had dismissed "driving shoes" for years, he always wore cowboy boots. It's what real men did. Eventually he was talked into trying a pair of racing shoes. He was like SO excited at this point in his interview. Going on and on about how he couldn't believe the difference it made, those driving shoes are great! 
Today the racing is so competitive the drivers need every edge they can get. That means being alert and fresh as much as possible at the end as at the beginning. Hence, regular gym "work out's" are just the way it is now. |
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Tiny Lund was by no means any athlete and he did well in 1964. But when the power steering goes out now, just look at how it affects the drivers performance, especially if it goes out early in a long race. Also they have to get used to the difference in brakes. The open wheel cars have great brakes while you can't stop one of these cars immediately. I remember a few years ago, forget which race it was, that Ricky Rudd won and they had to lift him out of the car and carry him to the medical room as he was out from heat exhaustion. The cool suites are great but if they fail they are worse than not having one.
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nobody wants to see some big buff chick that looks like a Russian weight lifter race....
they want to see someone that actually looks like a female race.....like Danica....
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I believe that the hardest thing is going to be for her or any other woman to get used to racing the way they do, fender to fender. Plus on hot, humid days when the cool suit fails, that is going to be another matter. Even a couple of the men who have driven for a long time have had to get out of the car during a race under those conditions. Remember, these cars generate a lot of heat and it gets very hot in those drivers areas. But I do hope that she is successful and I would like to see more women in NASCAR.
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there you go .........after 500 laps at Daytona Danica emerges from her Stay Free Maxi Pad ,Monistat Chevy with all that sweat glistening off her firm little..............whew
I'll watch that.......
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there you go .........after 500 laps at Daytona Danica emerges from her Stay Free Maxi Pad ,Monistat Chevy with all that sweat glistening off her firm little..............whew
I'll watch that.......
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Actually I kind of like Cope's nieces.
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John,
I agree with you about Cope's nieces. And they can't be much worse as a driver than he is. Now if NASCAR would just make an exception and let the women change clothes after a race before the interviews.
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If anyone looked into the weight training that Mark Martin does daily you'd see why he can outdrive most of the younger drivers, also skill, experiance, and equipment help.
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If anyone looked into the weight training that Mark Martin does daily you'd see why he can outdrive most of the younger drivers, also skill, experiance, and equipment help.
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Mark Martin has always had one of the most rigorous training programs of any driver. Many of the younger ones couldn't do all he does now. Plus he has a lot of talent as a driver to go with it.
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I think Montoya was a little to hot headed the first couple of seasons and is just now starting to settle down so he can do some serious raceing with J.J and gordon and others.
I still dont like the new "ricer looking" car of tomorrow,it dosent look like anything you can buy at a dealer near you.
as far as things go with Danica Patrick in NASCAR.......its all marketing........
she will go out and run some ARCA races and some Nationwide races and if she does well ,then good for her......i would gladley take her place.....
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Getting off the subject a little but here are NASCARs Top Stories of the Decade.
http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/opin...rdt/index.html
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12-31-2009, 06:40 PM
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Ron......they wont let them come out in a bra and panties.........
NASCAR is a FAMILY sport.......
but keep your eyes open and maybe the Cope twins
will be in FHM magazine............
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