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| Scott S |
01-16-2010 07:33 AM |
Interpol now has immunity...
President Obama with a stoke of a pen has given away one of our most important rights, Interpol now has basically free reign in our country to do what ever it sees fit with full immunity.
http://threatswatch.org/analysis/200...r-sovereignty/
Why would Obama do this to us?:CRY: |
| computerworks |
01-16-2010 07:52 AM |
For the Chicken Little's:
A little (actually very little) searching found the Exec Order was the result of a recommendation by the State Department under The Bush administration to bring Interpol under the same rules as other world orgs, like the Intl Red Cross.
It was in the To-Do box from the last administration. No news there.
Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.
:LOL::LOL::LOL:
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| Ron61 |
01-16-2010 07:58 AM |
:LOL: :LOL:
Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.
Now you couldn't possibly be referring to Ernie as he doesn't Blog so far as we know.
Ron :LOL: :LOL:
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| computerworks |
01-16-2010 07:59 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron61
(Post 1018999)
:LOL: :LOL:
Now you couldn't possibly be referring to Ernie as he doesn't Blog so far as we know.
Ron :LOL: :LOL:
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Correct. EX narrowly misses that classification. ;) |
| Scott S |
01-16-2010 08:26 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
(Post 1018997)
For the Chicken Little's:
A little (actually very little) searching found the Exec Order was the result of a recommendation by the State Department under The Bush administration to bring Interpol under the same rules as other world orgs, like the Intl Red Cross.
It was in the To-Do box from the last administration. No news there.
Unless you wade thru the infinite blog posts on this shocking revelation by the constipated extremists.
:LOL::LOL::LOL:
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So I guess its just okay,....? BTW I don't think the Red Cross has any police authority. |
| computerworks |
01-16-2010 08:38 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott S
(Post 1019011)
BTW I don't think the Red Cross has any police authority.
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Neither does Interpol here...
Quote:
If a foreign country issues an arrest warrant for a person inside the United States, it is up to the United States government, based on its own laws, to decide whether to apprehend the suspect.
“We don’t send officers into the field to arrest people; we don’t have agents that go investigate crimes,” said Rachel Billington, an Interpol spokeswoman. “This is always done by the national police in the member country under their national laws.”
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| Scott S |
01-16-2010 08:40 AM |
More from the Washington Examiner
"There are multiple reasons why this Obama decision is so deeply disturbing. First, the Obama order reverses a 1983 Reagan administration decision in order to grant Interpol, the International Criminal Police Organization, two key privileges. First, Obama has granted Interpol the ability to operate within the territorial limits of the United States without being subject to the same constitutional restraints that apply to all domestic law enforcement agencies such as the FBI. Second, Obama has exempted Interpol's domestic facilities -- including its office within the U.S. Department of Justice -- from search and seizure by U.S. authorities and from disclosure of archived documents in response to Freedom of Information Act requests filed by U.S. citizens. Think very carefully about what you just read: Obama has given an international law enforcement organization that is accountable to no other national authority the ability to operate as it pleases within our own borders, and he has freed it from the most basic measure of official transparency and accountability, the FOIA."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-80291137.html
Who would you rather wiretap you, Interpol or Bush?
Scott S |
| Scott S |
01-16-2010 08:45 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
(Post 1019014)
Neither does Interpol here...
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With complete immunity how would you know? What is the enforcement mechanism, blind trust of a foreign agency?
Some of the left went off the deep-end over NSA wiretaps, why is this any different?
Scott S |
| Excaliber |
01-16-2010 10:34 AM |
I guess I "blog", it's just not all in one place, but scattered around the Lounge. :)
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| Dan40 |
01-16-2010 10:40 AM |
Arrests made by Interpol here are subject to our laws same as us arresting someone in any foreign country are subject to that country's laws.
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| Scott S |
01-16-2010 10:58 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan40
(Post 1019030)
Arrests made by Interpol here are subject to our laws same as us arresting someone in any foreign country are subject to that country's laws.
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Not any more, how would you like to be arrested by a policeman that has complete immunity from all prosecution and the ability to hide all evidence perhaps even you? |
| computerworks |
01-16-2010 11:18 AM |
Scott...I'm not trying to challenge you, because this appears to be an issue you have some sort of passion for...
...but, you are missing the crux.
Interpol doesn't have "police" that "make arrests" in foreign countries.
It says they work with local law enforcement to accomplish that.
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| tcrist |
01-16-2010 02:01 PM |
Thats ok CW.
Our local law enforcement is corrupt anyway so this just makes them twice as corrupt. I dont trust any of them as far as I could throw them.
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| Ron61 |
01-16-2010 03:35 PM |
Terry,
We have that problem for real up here with the local police. Almost every day or so there is another report of some wrong doing they have done, but it isn't all of them, just a few bad ones that need to be gotten rid of. Trouble is, no one wants to call them for anything as they won't respond to anything and you never know if you are talking to an honest LEO. But all of them get blamed just as in any job. You can have 15 honest people and one jerk and they are all judged by the jerk. Even our Sheriff of a several years back had to leave town because his son was taking dope from the evidence locker and selling it on the street with his Father's knowledge. At least we now have an honest sheriff and most of his subordinate officers are honest and work hard at their jobs. They deserve far more credit that they get.
Ron :(
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| Excaliber |
01-16-2010 03:48 PM |
I'll second Terry's opinion on the police in general though, some places worse than others.
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| Scott S |
01-16-2010 05:13 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
(Post 1019040)
Scott...I'm not trying to challenge you, because this appears to be an issue you have some sort of passion for...
...but, you are missing the crux.
Interpol doesn't have "police" that "make arrests" in foreign countries.
It says they work with local law enforcement to accomplish that.
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So if you were falsely arrested based entirely on information garnered from Interpol, who would you sue?
The arresting agency will pass the buck off, Interpol will claim no knowledge, you will have no legal means of discovery...
Scott S |
| tcrist |
01-16-2010 05:17 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron61
(Post 1019097)
Terry,
We have that problem for real up here with the local police. Almost every day or so there is another report of some wrong doing they have done, but it isn't all of them, just a few bad ones that need to be gotten rid of. Trouble is, no one wants to call them for anything as they won't respond to anything and you never know if you are talking to an honest LEO. But all of them get blamed just as in any job. You can have 15 honest people and one jerk and they are all judged by the jerk. Even our Sheriff of a several years back had to leave town because his son was taking dope from the evidence locker and selling it on the street with his Father's knowledge. At least we now have an honest sheriff and most of his subordinate officers are honest and work hard at their jobs. They deserve far more credit that they get.
Ron :(
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Ron,
You are probably correct. To bad it only takes 1 or 2 corrupt cops to screw it up for everyone else on the force. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott S
(Post 1019125)
So if you were falsely arrested based entirely on information garnered from Interpol, who would you sue?
Scott S
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So if a terrorist plot is thwarted and a would be bomber is arrested based entirely on information garnered from Interpol, who would you thank? ;)
I suppose one can spend all day dreaming up hypothetical scenarios to keep the fear alive in the face of rational explainations... |
| vector1 |
01-17-2010 08:12 AM |
interpol is intelligence, not apprehension from my understanding.
i just watched "the international" and thought interpol and the fbi worked well together.
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| Scott S |
01-17-2010 08:28 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
(Post 1019295)
So if a terrorist plot is thwarted and a would be bomber is arrested based entirely on information garnered from Interpol, who would you thank? ;)
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If the terrorist was a US citizen I would hope that he have the right to face his accuser...wouldn't you? |
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