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bomelia 01-22-2010 10:20 AM

BTW, I always suspected that Bush's signing of the McCain-Feingold bill as a pre-step to finally getting this to the SCOTUS. I don't think Bush liked it, but he knew it would get challanged. Just vetoing it would never put it to rest. I have a funny feeling we are about to see the same stuff with regards to "entitlements".

Mike

Excaliber 01-22-2010 10:28 AM

I suspect we have not seen the end of this issue with allowing unfettered campaigning by special interest groups. Especially with the court so closely divided on it. Perhaps it it something Congress will have to look at, at some point.

Ralphy 01-22-2010 10:28 AM

Ex, when you post you really need to piece things together better. Here like this!

"My definition is entirely accurate, Dan, as it applies to the mob of paranoid right wing nuts that frequent the Club Cobra Lounge. Be wary of group's that exaggerate their opponent's position in order to mobilize support through political outrage."

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:16 AM

No exageration!!!!! If the shoe fit's wear it proudly, or dumbly, as the case may be.

It is obvious to ALL that visit the Lounge that the majority (that would be mob, as in mob mentality) attack and attempt to humiliate anyone that opposes their hostile and closely held views.

Prime example: One such member repeatedly harrased our own Computerworks for offering a view that was simply different. Using the "F" word resulted in a ban. MOST potential posters to the Lounge with a view point that even LOOKS like it might challenge the "mob" have quit posting.

Maybe we need a poll? How many frequent posters in the Lounge lean left? You know the results already. You would be a fool to declare yourself a Liberal around THIS bunch!

Exageration? Not even close and YOU KNOW THAT, Ralphy. Now as to whether or not you consider yourself among the "right wing nut radical harrasement bunch", if the shoe fits, wear it.

Ralphy 01-22-2010 11:26 AM

Funny, to me it seems most attack views here. But you seem to resort to name calling very often.

turnpike boy 01-22-2010 11:28 AM

Ah.
 
The last refuge of a cornered man. :(

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:39 AM

Perhaps the ONLY man left, as in "left"?

You see what you want to see, I've been called every name in the book around here, I respond in kind.

Why don't you radical conservatives post a poll? "Do you lean right or left?" You know the results already, no poll needed. The threads around here BLEED with ultra conservative right wing NUT CASES.

Ralphy 01-22-2010 11:41 AM

Hmmm... when views oppose yours and it seems it's a majority they are a mob.

Now, if most here agreed with you, what would you call them?

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
2.

b. Morally unrestrained; licentious.
n.

Other than the bolded part of 1.b. Sounds like a custom fit to me!
How many times have we seen this definition posted here in the Lounge? How many times has been used to denigrate those with an opposing view? Don't patronize me, don't belittle my views with yet another attack. I'[m sick and tired of you a-holes. Yeah, thats right FREAKIN' NAME CALLING HERE, telling it like it is. Kiss my a,, you dam red neck radicals.

turnpike boy 01-22-2010 11:45 AM

We're only nut cases - excuse me- NUT CASES if we disagree with you, Ex.

And, yes, you probably are the only one "left". It would be tough to be the only one "right" all the time, I suppose.

turnpike boy 01-22-2010 11:47 AM

Yeah - there's the tolerant demeanor we see so often in libs. :rolleyes:

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:48 AM

DONT PATRONIZE ME turnpike LITTLE BOY.

fastd 01-22-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcat (Post 1021067)
Ernie .... I guess my feelings are that you can`t have freedom of speech and then limit who can use it . A Corporation has as much right as anyone to say what they want .... through ads or whatever . If you look at the ruling , I believe it also applies to the unions .... who are able to use unlimited "voluntary" contributions from their members who have no say on how they are used .

I don't know that I agree; Corporations don't necessarily have the same rights as Citizens; after all, the US Constitution written for Citizens ("We the People", not "We the People and Corporations"); if I extend out the "Corporations have free speech rights" argument a little further, does that mean every individual at every corporation has the right to say whatever he/she wants? I can work for a Company and have the right to say whatever I want and not get fired?

As long as individuals have free speech, then the protections that the Constitution wanted to provide are still in tact. The ultimate protectors of our liberty are not the corporations, it lies with the Citizens.

turnpike boy 01-22-2010 11:51 AM

Never.
 
Wouldn't think of even trying to. You need to chill, old son - exasperation won't do your blood pressure any good, and none of this is for real anyway.

Wish I was "little" again. Thanks for the kind thoughts. :p

Ralphy 01-22-2010 11:56 AM

We chose to come to this part of CC on our own regard. This is not what CC was designed for. We come here on our own and we can leave on our own.

This is probably over stepping CC's boundaries, this is only my view. If I do not like it, I can leave this area. I think others should follow this rule. My opinion only.

I have posted at other places where I was the minority. I never complained or name called groups. However it seems to be a trait of the liberal view to call names.

One more thing, I already told you I was a Dem once. So when you decide to title me put that in there also!

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:57 AM

fastd, I suspect that's exactly the way the Justices felt about this issue, divided. It's a tough one, time will tell how it plays out. The POTENTIAL is for corporations to spend FAR more money than a candidate could/would. Potentially making or breaking an election.

Excaliber 01-22-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

However it seems to be a trait of the liberal view to call names.
Your opinion is noted, it's not grounded in reality, but it's noted. Perhaps because your a newbie and don't fully understand the dynamics at play here. Stick around and observe long enough and you will "get it".

WHO are these "Liberals" you speak off? NAME ONE besides myself who regularly posts here. Just ONE?

Ralphy 01-22-2010 12:07 PM

I guess you just removed any doubt to your claim as an Independent!:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1021170)
Your opinion is noted, it's not grounded in reality, but it's noted. Perhaps because your a newbie and don't fully understand the dynamics at play here. Stick around and observe long enough and you will "get it".

WHO are these "Liberals" you speak off? NAME ONE besides myself who regularly posts here. Just ONE?



Now as far as liberal name calling. I was not referring to just here. So if your the ONLY liberal HERE, that to me would say all liberals resort to name calling.

Excaliber 01-22-2010 12:13 PM

Dam straight! Around here someone needs to have the balls to stand up and be counted and not be afraid to admit he's a LIBERAL.

...still waiting, came someone name ONE other person who posts here regularly that is a Liberal. JUST ONE?????

And you don't see the problem with that? Minority? Not even close! So out numbered the majority becomes a MOB, with mob mentality.

Ralphy 01-22-2010 12:22 PM

I guess you need to get a lawyer! This site is prejudice! It might even be a conspiracy!


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