Facebook, kids and public schools

[VRM]

Originally Posted by RAZOR

Maybe its because Conservatives believe it is the role of the home and not the Government to make those decisions. The schools are doing a piss poor job at the education, so maybe a little more focus on skills would be more appropriate. And then maybe Liberals would realize that realize is not spelled realise.

The home is doing a piss-poor job teaching sex ed, as evidenced by stats from a variety of sources. Teaching abstinence only is not getting the job done - show me one teenager who is practising abstinence and I will show you two who are not.

The books I read when I was a wee young thing were primarily by English authors. And Masterpiece Theatre (Not the version with Allistair Cookie Monster) was something I was always allowed to stay up late for. I learned to spell from them. Leave it to a conservative to try and correct Dickens.

Steve

[RAZOR]

VRM,Who said anything abstinence? Once again the people are not smart enough to handle the job so let the government take over the responsibility of the individual.
So leave it to a liberal to once again choose European ways and values over the American way and values.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by RAZOR

VRM,Who said anything abstinence? Once again the people are not smart enough to handle the job so let the government take over the responsibility of the individual.
So leave it to a liberal to once again choose European ways and values over the American way and values.

Razor,
The report TB talks about mentioned abstinence-only education compared to abstinence taught with contraception methods, STD dangers, and how all of it works.
You may be smart enough to educate your kids, but obviously the numbers indicate that a lot of people are not. How do we fix that problem? The conservative method seems to be to pretend that it does not exist.

European engineers invented the internal combustion engine - does that mean you don't use them because they were not invented here?
I prefer to think that one of the reasons this country does so well is that we can recognise and utilise all the best stuff from whatever source. Other countries are having better results that we are, so learning from their methods would be in our best interests.

Steve

[RAZOR]

Originally Posted by VRM

Razor,
The report TB talks about mentioned abstinence-only education compared to abstinence taught with contraception methods, STD dangers, and how all of it works.
You may be smart enough to educate your kids, but obviously the numbers indicate that a lot of people are not. How do we fix that problem? The conservative method seems to be to pretend that it does not exist.

European engineers invented the internal combustion engine - does that mean you don't use them because they were not invented here?
I prefer to think that one of the reasons this country does so well is that we can recognise and utilise all the best stuff from whatever source. Other countries are having better results that we are, so learning from their methods would be in our best interests.

Steve

"Pretend it doesn't exist" this seems to be the misdirection of the left on a number of issues. The left makes this accusation on any issue when the conservative doesn't want government involvement, so with the worldview of the left if we don't want the government involved it must be that we are in a state of ignorance or denial.
I have no objection to learning better methods no matter the country of origin, I do have a problem adopting a value system that replacez ours. The left lovez European valuez, I agree with Tocqueville, and believe in American Exceptionalizm, the Left for whatever reazon doezn't share that belief

[VRM]

Originally Posted by RAZOR

"Pretend it doesn't exist" this seems to be the misdirection of the left on a number of issues. The left makes this accusation on any issue when the conservative doesn't want government involvement, so with the worldview of the left if we don't want the government involved it must be that we are in a state of ignorance or denial.
I have no objection to learning better methods no matter the country of origin, I do have a problem adopting a value system that replacez ours. The left lovez European valuez, I agree with Tocqueville, and believe in American Exceptionalizm, the Left for whatever reazon doezn't share that belief

So do you value unwanted teen pregnancies and higher abortion/divorce rates?
I do not like government interference in pretty much anything - however, there is a point where if individuals are not getting the job done then I think a gradual ramping up of government interference is warranted.
Conservatives have offered to teach abstinence. That's great, but it only works if people are actually practising it, and they are not. Bristol Palin got the abstinence bug only after getting pregnant. A lot of kids in Bristols situation end up on welfare. Do you value that too?

So what is your solution to this? Get the parents to educate their kids? Sounds good to me - how do you get it done? Give me a plan to fix the problem rather than a bunch of partisan BS.

BTW, you might want to have your spellcheck looked at - it seems to be disZeeZZed.

Steve