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Actually the land was not always stolen. The Pilgrims paid the Indians for land, so did the Puritans. William Penn received the largest land grant ever given by the King of England, but he recognized that the Indigenous people would not see it the same way and Penn paid them for the land. This is not to dismiss the violence against the Indians but it was not always a land grab.

Here is my simple minded question, . . . . . Aren't the indians free to move out into mainstream society and thus gradually reduce the need for the reservations. For the ones obviously unable to afford a college education, there are still lots of blue collar jobs out there. Why don't they gradually assimilate little by little. One generation of decent paying blue collar jobs leads to the next generation of white collar jobs.

The Irish, are no longer all cops in NYC, and the Italians are no longer all living in Little Italy in NYC. They have ASSIMILATED.

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Originally Posted by SPF2245 (Post 1031862)

US House speaker to make landmark Hiroshima visit

TOKYO (AFP) ― House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is set this week to be the highest-ranking sitting US official to visit the site of the Hiroshima atomic bombing, which bitterly divides opinion six decades later.

No sitting US president or vice president has ever paid respects to the dead of the US nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, a sore point for many survivors in Japan.

Pelosi will travel to Hiroshima for a meeting of parliament speakers from the Group of Eight major industrial nations. Pelosi, who is second in line to the presidency, is a member of Barack Obama's Democratic Party.

On Tuesday, Pelosi and the other speakers will lay flowers at a memorial in Hiroshima, hear testimony from a bomb survivor and hold discussions on disarmament, according to Japanese officials.

This was about a year or so ago. Japan still won't admit to half the crap they did...so, screw 'em. I'm the first in my family who was born in the US, my family is originally from Europe...I don't feel any need to say "sorry" to blacks/indians or anyone else who believes their great-great grandpa got a raw deal. I don't want history to repeat itself when it comes to slavery, ect. but I also don't feel it's my responsibility to say sorry for events my family had no part in.

Yeah...visit the Nanjing Peace Memorial and see what the Japanese did to those people. That's scary.

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill (Post 1031875)

Their land?They weren't the first ones here.Neither were we.

Sorry,but EnviroMENTALISTS don't have enough clout to stop a railroad.Something else is "afoot".

Sorry Bill but you are wrong about that. They have wanted to build that railroad bridge to take out the dangerous curve for the past 20 years and the very mention of it has the Environmentalists in court. They have also in the past 10 years here in this area stopped any construction of 2 highway bridges, any dams or power plants, yet they are leading the screaming about the need for more power but they want wind power. So about 6 years ago they fund a place up near Burney on the mountain that would work for wind power, got all the permits and everything and guess what. Here came the Environmentalists and took it to court to stop it as it would ruin the skyline for the few people that can actually see that part of it. They lost that fight and last summer they started the job and now the Environmentalists are suing to keep any power lines from being ran from the turbines to any place at that will spoil the urban scenery if you hike 15 miles up these canyons and happen to see one of them. But on a more LOGICAL note for the Environmentalists, they are also demanding more power as they drive their brand new SUVs from city to city to protest anything they can find. The Enviromentallists here have more power than the railroad and sometimes I think the state.

Ron :)

[quote=Ron61;The Enviromentallists here have more power than the railroad and sometimes I think the state.Ron :)[/QUOTE]

Here is how the railroads work.They want to build a double track bridge over a wash(single track is already there)They burn down the old one,and while they are rebuilding the first one,they put up the second one.NO-ONE and a mean NO-ONE can stop them.

[quote=SPF2245;No sitting US president or vice president has ever paid respects to the dead of the US nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, a sore point for many survivors in Japan.[/QUOTE]

Why should they have?

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill (Post 1032322)

Here is how the railroads work.They want to build a double track bridge over a wash(single track is already there)They burn down the old one,and while they are rebuilding the first one,they put up the second one.NO-ONE and a mean NO-ONE can stop them.

Bill,

There is no bridge at this spot to burn down and if they could build one that crosses the river it would eliminate one of the most dangerous spots on the railroad in this area. I doubt if even the railroad can burn down a mountain. The river kind of winds back on itself and the railroad is on a cut that follows the river and they have to make this hard switchback in this spot and when they have 100 or more cars is is very hard to not have one of them pull off the rails. The Environmentalists have screamed for years about this but THEY HAVE stopped the railroad from building a bridge across the river that would eliminate this dangerous spot.

Ron