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xb-60 09-22-2015 05:34 PM

Volkswagen!!
 
Hey you guys in America...what's going on over there with Volkswagen and exhaust emissions? How many cars are involved? What's the potential damage to Volkswagen? :eek:

Cheers,
Glen

cycleguy55 09-22-2015 08:48 PM

Apparently you haven't heard - this is a global issue affecting 11 million vehicles: VW emissions scandal hits 11m vehicles - BBC News

cycleguy55 09-23-2015 07:47 AM

So here is a historically accurate depiction of what the board meeting room was like when word first broke about the scandal to Chairman Hitler of Volkswagen... https://youtu.be/dKef1JFpiCA

xb-60 09-23-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cycleguy55 (Post 1363835)
Apparently you haven't heard - this is a global issue affecting 11 million vehicles: VW emissions scandal hits 11m vehicles - BBC News

No hadn't heard that when I posted. Early reports here (Australia) said that at that stage, the 'affected' cars were those diesels sold in America.

Hard to comprehend how big (ie expensive) this is going to be for VW!

I had an Audi 10 years ago and I sold it after six months because things kept going wrong with it and the dealer's interest level was sub-zero.

I had a Golf 30 years ago. The body was good and solid, the mechanicals were....sub-zero.

I didn't think VW's integrity level was this low and their arrogance was this high though.

Cheers,
Glen

xb-60 09-23-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycleguy55 (Post 1363902)
So here is a historically accurate depiction of what the board meeting room was like when word first broke about the scandal to Chairman Hitler of Volkswagen... https://youtu.be/dKef1JFpiCA

Doesn't take long does it? It's quite funny.

Tim7139 09-24-2015 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1363978)
No hadn't heard that when I posted. Early reports here (Australia) said that at that stage, the 'affected' cars were those diesels sold in America.

Hard to comprehend how big (ie expensive) this is going to be for VW!

I had an Audi 10 years ago and I sold it after six months because things kept going wrong with it and the dealer's interest level was sub-zero.

I had a Golf 30 years ago. The body was good and solid, the mechanicals were....sub-zero.

I didn't think VW's integrity level was this low and their arrogance was this high though.

Cheers,
Glen


Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.:LOL:

Ron61 09-26-2015 03:31 AM

Here is this mornings news report on the Volkswagen mess here in the states mostly.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vw-rec...194521326.html

Ron

Karl Bebout 09-26-2015 10:16 AM

Probably a good time to get a deal on a VW....if you want one.

cycleguy55 09-26-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl Bebout (Post 1364458)
Probably a good time to get a deal on a VW....if you want one.

With the exception of the Touareg, sales of new diesel VWs are frozen for now, but I'd buy a used 1999-2004.5 Jetta or 4 door Golf if the price was right, for the sole purpose of converting it into a pickup. See https://www.facebook.com/SmythPerformance?fref=ts

OTOH, gasoline VWs are not affected by this, though VW dealers may get more aggressive on deals in order to keep their doors open, now that much of their diesel business has been taken away - at least for a while.

xb-60 09-27-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim7139 (Post 1364110)
Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.:LOL:

I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

aaannnd 10-06-2015 04:59 AM

Volkswagen vs Cobra
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Tim7139 10-06-2015 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1364618)
I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

I've owned 5 Audi's. I think I blew out a bulb in one.

Paul F 10-06-2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1364618)
I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

You're not missing anything. It was a discourteous and uncalled for response.

xb-60 10-06-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim7139 (Post 1364110)
Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.:LOL:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1364618)
I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

Please feel free to share your opinion on the ethics of conning eleven million car buyers....and yes, I have learnt something but it might be rude for me to comment further.

Cheers,
Glen

Jaydee 10-06-2015 04:04 PM

The older rear engine ones were great. Specially on a bonfire. Blocks were magnesium. I had to put a car out using sand. Lucky it caught fire next to a building site.
JD

Tim7139 10-06-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul F (Post 1365862)
You're not missing anything. It was a discourteous and uncalled for response.

Really, so complaining about a 30 freaking year old golf adds to the discussion how, precisely?

xb-60 10-07-2015 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim7139 (Post 1365956)
Really, so complaining about a 30 freaking year old golf adds to the discussion how, precisely?

Yikes, mate! Settle down.
So what about the 11 million cars world wide, and the 90k here in Australia? Is there any reason that those current owners shouldn't be somewhat cheesed off by VAG's totally illegal activities?

Cheers :D
Glen

Dominik 10-08-2015 08:12 AM

If I was VW, I would take them all back and sell them to a country where Euro 6 emission law is not required. That way the world is kept clean... Or tell the current owners to drive slower to reduce emissions.

Am I sarcasic? Yes, because I don't believe in global warming - oups, sorry, global climate change. - Or, what is it called now?

Was VW lying and cheating? Yes.

Who informed the EPA? Maybe Piech, after he couldn't get rid of Winterkorn earlier this year and replace him with a person of his choice.

Piech already bought additional VW shares... Everybody should.

Tim7139 10-08-2015 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1366051)
Yikes, mate! Settle down.
So what about the 11 million cars world wide, and the 90k here in Australia? Is there any reason that those current owners shouldn't be somewhat cheesed off by VAG's totally illegal activities?

Cheers :D
Glen

I'm perfectly settled. Is there some correlation to current owners relative to 30 year old golfs?

Tim7139 10-08-2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominik (Post 1366107)
If I was VW, I would take them all back and sell them to a country where Euro 6 emission law is not required. That way the world is kept clean... Or tell the current owners to drive slower to reduce emissions.

Am I sarcasic? Yes, because I don't believe in global warming - oups, sorry, global climate change. - Or, what is it called now?

Was VW lying and cheating? Yes.

Who informed the EPA? Maybe Piech, after he couldn't get rid of Winterkorn earlier this year and replace him with a person of his choice.

Piech already bought additional VW shares... Everybody should.

Well, I guarantee, given the punitive nature of regulators, this gets more expensive, with nasty news, before it turns around.
There is, however, a lot I learned about deisel engines that speaks to the matter and this is way more complicated than it may first appear.
For, instance, I did not know that we're not talking about emissions common to other cars. Apparantly as the engines get going, o2 pollutants drop way down but No2 picks up and while most regulation is about carbon there has been some debate for a long time that you can't have it both ways with a 90% reduction on carbon dioxide without a bump in the nitrogen compomant.
Here in the US there has been a negotiation going on since last year, none of which, I'm sure is going to be a factor over time.

Remember, Toyota ended up writing a huge check for, we're not exactly sure what still at this stage of the game.


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