No Amnesty part 2

[Michael4yah]

Ron,392, Lamm is correct. But I think that we need to point the finger at the individuals that are doing this and not just the faceless corporations supplying the money etc.

It certainly isnt happening by accident is it. We need to keep reminding our people that it isnt 10 million, its 40 million. Playing down the numbers is a favorite tactic that works and is used continously against us. Which brings me to my next point in all this. Its the one factor that would change everything overnight and maybe the only thing that could stop this from becoming a civil war. That is to remove the monopoly over our press. This country was designed as a Republic, with a Constitution designed specifically to insure its rights and laws are protected, FOR THE PEOPLES BENEFIT. "We are the people". Freedom of the Press is absolutely vital for a free peoples ability to protect themselves against tryanny. We depend on a Free and Nonmanipulated source of truth. Without it our people cant get the facts that are so vital for them to guide and preside over this nation. Take the Mayoral race here in Los Angeles recently. It's the proof that Im talking about. Mayor Villaraigosa is a member of La Mecha and La Raza. Both are groups that are determined to hand the southeastern U.S.A. over to Mexico! Their Rhetoric is filled with comments of violence towards the White middle class, not to mention those made against our history and culture . If just one TV station here in LA would have run the video footage of Villaraigosa speaking to these anti american groups he would never have been elected. Period. But none ever did, even though they had all that footage in their archives. So you have to ask yourself what role does the media play in all this. Id say without a doubt, its at the head of the list. What has happened to this country could never have taken place without the combined efforts of all the media outlets. They successfully covered up the assasinations of John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert F. Kennedy and just recently John Jr. Those murders along wth Vince Foster, the Branch Davidians and countless others in history have diverted this country's path from its true and correct destination. Without the media's complicity in these coverups we wouldnt have suffered them in the first place. The entire media is owned and operated by the same people. "Those People" have sworn allegiance against us. Against our nation and our way of life. They must be stopped. If we had a free press our people would have been warned and if need be sufficiently reminded of the border problem long before it ever reached even 1 million. Our troops cannot be rallied because of this conspriacy and this factor alone inhibits us from curing our problems. We have been disconnected from our own reality. Just like any good Con game the perpetrator uses distraction on its victim as its chief ingredient. Why we are not picketing and boycotting every news source in the country for their failure to tell us the truth totally escapes me.
Michael

[Ron61]

Michael,

I no longer consider the American Media as a reliable source of anything. They don't report the news, they make it up and then slant it whichever way they want it. I am all for freedom of the press and speech, but sometimes I think there should be some people and news media called to account for what they say and report. They were probably paid well to not report those remarks.

Ron

[Commander]

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[Buzz]

The two states that I am most familiar with are California and Florida. I travelled to California on both business and pleasure when I lived and worked in Canada's northern Alberta oilpatch. Now that I am back home in the Caribbean, I travel to Florida occasionally, mainly for business and shopping. I loved the coastal areas of southern California and seriously considered investing in some business and property there in the mid 1980's. I also remember being amazed at how "Spanish" (my thoughts at the time) much of SoCal was and thinking that it would be a good idea to learn that language if I ended up spending a lot of time there. Fast forward to today and Florida and my impressions are very similar, but far more extreme. As a predominantly English speaker (my French sucks) I always felt at ease and easily assimilated in most parts of North America, but in the greater Miami area, because I do not habla espanol, I feel very "foreign" and, ironically, more like a "minority" than I have felt anywhere else, with the exception of French speaking Quebec. On my most recent trip, telephone conversations were often challenging and I really felt like English was the second language. Face to face, maybe people made assumptions because of my appearance, but I was almost always addressed first in Spanish and in English only after indicating that I didn't understand. This is strictly an outsider's observation and not meant in any way to upset or offend anyone.
I do not believe in multiculturalism as a societal policy and bilingualism is even worse. Both of these undermine the very basic principle of a unified nation and lead towards chaos as the special interests of the various factions take precedence over the greater good of the nation itself. I will never understand why people leave their countries only to try to recreate what they supposedly left behind. I will definitely never understand why they are allowed and encouraged to do so. Fight for your society, your country and your way of life - it's not only your right, but your duty as citizens.
One well meaning word of caution to the decent and rightfully indignant people speaking out here - be wary of embracing and identifying with the extremists and neo nazi fanatics among you simply because they agree with you on this particular issue - they are as great a danger, a disgrace and a discredit to your nation as any hostile foreigner or illegal alien and they will use this cause not for the good of America but as the familiar old "convenient scapegoat" tactic to further advance their own twisted, self-serving agendas.

[Michael4yah]

Ron, your so right . The media is the key to this conspiracy.

[cobra de capell]

Cloture Vote Fails. Immigration Reform Dead

[Michael4yah]

I hope that everyone understands that what you"ve just seen is a masterful job of manipulation."They" (Those People who rule America from behind the scenes) hope that what youve just experienced will disengage this issue from your brains and the hopefully the next election. Thats what this whole thing has been about. I bet the whole crew of them are behind the scenes right now giving eachother hi fives and congratulating themselves on their Academy Award performance. They knew possitively that there was never enough support for ANY immigration reform. The whole enchilada was about getting US off the SUBJECT so that their Puppets can be reelected.
They know that if this issue hung around till election day, America, especially White Middle Class America might just might be ANGRY enough to clean house of everyone in the Congress and the Senate. (the ones up for reelection)

(Announcer)"And now a word from the dark side".
""Thats all, youve been a wonderful audience, now you can go back to sleep. ""( this has been a paid announcement from the" Lets Destroy America Council")

Americans:
Never give up, never give in. Save America Now. Kick every illegal alien out of this country before its too late. The longer they stay the harder it is to weed them out. And the cost doubles about every 6 months.
Instead of Us getting identity cards I say we register every latin in this country. If they are legal they have nothing to worry about. If they dont have that document then put em on that bus or do what I said earlier convict them and sentance them to 10 years picking our fruits and vegetables for free, then we bus em to the border and give em 10 bucks and the warning "If we catch you here again the next time it will be 20 years"
That should satisfy the farmers who are crying that they need mexican labor, now they get it for free. You know that some will not go, so heres the perfect plan. I knew that if we looked long and hard enough we'd come up with the perfect plan!!!
Michael

[Michael4yah]

Paul, you hit the nail on the head with those entry level jobs. Same out here in Ca. A week ago I went through a Jack in the Box, a white man in his early 60s had a clip board and was asking questions of those who went through the drive through. When he came up to my car I let him have about 15 minutes of my time explaining to him how this is crippling our nation. You see there are no white people working in that Jack in the Box!!! Not One. After the 1st 5 minutes this guy was trying to end the conversation and I just kept pouring it on to the point where I demanded that he listen to me give my order at the menu sign. He did and within 30 seconds he had this look of suprise on his face and within a minute he was shaking his head. The mexican girl couldnt take the simple order. She ended up calling for help and ended up handing me off to the manager. A Chinaman who couldnt speak anymore english than the mexicans. If I wasnt so hungry and pi$$ed it would have been hilarious. The white man with the clip board was sent out by the head office to get patrons preferences on food but most of the ink he laid down on my paper was about this messed up restraunt with its non english speaking workers
Tyson Chicken is the spearhead for Illegal employment in your state of Arkansas. I Know they have had some "show" raids but they are still a big player in bringing in Illegals. I wouldnt be suprised to see someone burn one of their plants to the ground for what they have done. You see BIll CLinton was a player. He was involved Drug running etc there in ARK. Tyson was a big supporter of Clinton. Your state is small by most standards, which is a good thing. It means that your problem there is manageable if you can swing your people into action. Force Every one running for office to sign a letter of intent that says simply upon election they will do everything they can to arrest detain and deport all Illegals in your state , then hold their feet to the fire once elected. Lets make it the core issue this election. Its important to the survival of our way of life.
Michael

[stengun]

Howdy Michael,

Originally Posted by Michael4yah

Tyson Chicken is the spearhead for Illegal employment in your state of Arkansas. I Know they have had some "show" raids but they are still a big player in bringing in Illegals. I wouldnt be suprised to see someone burn one of their plants to the ground for what they have done. You see BIll CLinton was a player. He was involved Drug running etc there in ARK. Tyson was a big supporter of Clinton. Your state is small by most standards, which is a good thing. It means that your problem there is manageable if you can swing your people into action. Force Every one running for office to sign a letter of intent that says simply upon election they will do everything they can to arrest detain and deport all Illegals in your state , then hold their feet to the fire once elected. Lets make it the core issue this election. Its important to the survival of our way of life.
Michael

Very true. Everybody that works for Tyson in mid-level management upward to the CEO needs to spend the rest for their lives in a gladiator style federal prison.

Instead, Tyson gives millions every year to both parties so they can break the law without worrying about being arrest, etc. Heck, I'll call it like it is, it's a bribe, plain and simple.

Sure, Tyson supported Clinton, but they also supported Mike Huckabee who is running for President as a Republican. Tyson would support bin Laden, Saddam, or Hitler if they were in power and Tyson could use them. Tyson is a typical MEGA-CORP, and they will use and exploit the illegals for a buck. Before Jan. '01, if you lived around a tyson plant, when you got out of high school, you could go down the the plant and get a job the paid deceit, had health insurance and some type of retirement. Not anymore. Today, they hire illegals and pay them less than they paid US citizens 15 years ago. So, what do you do? You can't go to McD's because they don't hire white US citizens.

Clinton had very little to do with drug running. About all Clinton did was look the other way. I guess you are talking about the Reagan-Bush CIA operation at the Mena Airport that was run by Barry Seal. Do a google on Barry Seal and you'll find alot of info.

One of the things that I do not like about Huckabee is his stand on the illegal issue. Since he is in Tyson's pocket, he is against deportation of illegals, and even issued a notice from the gov'r office stating that suspected illegals were not to be detained by LEO usless they had committed a felony. My wife works for DHHShttp://http://www.arkansas.gov/dhhs/homepage.html and they received a notice from Huckabee's office not to investigate any cleints on the grounds that they might be illegal, plus they would be FIRED if they reported a suspected illegal to DHS/immigration http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/ because it violated their rights!

Just my $.02.

Paul

[Jamo]

Closing this one down.

Michael...one comment: You're arguing your view in a proper thread about the pros and cons of immigration reform. I, and others, agree with some of your observations about the law and the lack of enforcement.

However...you've gone over the line with racist comments.

Clean it up. There will be no discussion about this. Argue with me even a little and you will become an illegal on these pages immediately.