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VRM 03-26-2008 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 427 S/O (Post 828247)
Another thing steve, your history is out of whack!!, they were planning to attack us 'long' before GW, and your main man clinton had many opportunities to be preemptive.
Perry,
My history is fine - our nations policies have been out of whack for longer than either Bush or Clinton. Bin Ladens reasons for attacking us goes back to Bush1, and earlier. No single President is to blame, but most of them have done little to fix it either.
BTW, I met Clinton - I didn't like him either. Why do so many of you folks assume that because I don't like Bush that I must like Clinton?

Steve

meat 03-26-2008 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by imagine2frolic (Post 826466)
I understand Saddam gassing his own people.
Wow. That's a hell of thing to say. I can't 'understand' that at all. Mass murder is neither defensible nor understandable in my book.

Your pal,
Meat.

meat 03-26-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 828227)
We were attacked because our policies ran contrary to others.
Untrue.

We were attacked - again (two embassy bombings in 1998, World Trade Center 1993, Dhahran Saudi Arabia 1996, USS Cole 2000) - because we had a very weak President who refused to walk the line as George W. Bush has done.

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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 828227)
There was a small group of people who hated us enough to do something about it. Now, our policies have changed because of GW, and more of the world hates us than ever before.
Untrue.

We have many more allies now than we had in 2001. While the media would like us to believe that we're reviled, it's patently false.

Furthermore, when people decide to leave their countries - for whatever reason; be it persecution, a better life or anything else - they come the United States of America. Common sense - something lacking in statements like "Now, our policies have changed because of GW, and more of the world hates us than ever before" and other statements by the PlayDoh brain trust - dictates that people don't move to the country they hate.

Duh.
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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 828227)
We have not been attacked here in SPITE of GW. I do give him credit for the surge, but he loses any credit he might have gained for taking waaaay too long to figure it out (he also began an outreach to the Iraqi sheiks - something that I think had a LOT more to do with the surge working than just a lot more boots on the ground). GWs policies are making it a lot tougher for the guys standing watch to do their job, and we are losing a lot of what makes this country great in the process.
Untrue.

We haven't been attacked here because of George W. Bush, his policies, and the departments he has empowered through excellent work as the President of the United States.

I'm sure that there are nut jobs out there that believe that enforcing policies and creating departments to manage them is 'losing a lot of what makes this country great' ... but that's talking from the wrong end of the horse.

George W. Bush will be remembered as a great president, and a great man. Not by the liberals ... but who cares what them lying sacks of sh!t say anyway?

Your pal,
Meat.

VRM 03-26-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by meat (Post 828306)
Wow. That's a hell of thing to say. I can't 'understand' that at all. Mass murder is neither defensible nor understandable in my book.

Your pal,
Meat.
Then perhaps that is the reason we should have used to invade. There would be very little argument from anybody about the reason.

Though I suppose we would have still ended up looking stupid for torturing people to find out who was commiting crimes against humanity.

Steve

meat 03-26-2008 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 828283)
Perry,
My history is fine - our nations policies have been out of whack for longer than either Bush or Clinton. Bin Ladens reasons for attacking us goes back to Bush1, and earlier. No single President is to blame, but most of them have done little to fix it either.
Incorrect. You history is incorrect, and your assumptions about bin Laden's "reasons" are 'out of whack' as well.

bin Laden's actions and reasons for his actions are very well documented. You should read up on him before posting next time.

Your pal,
Meat.

Sharroll Celby 03-26-2008 05:40 PM
We haven't been attacked here because of George W. Bush, his policies, and the departments he has empowered through excellent work as the President of the United States.

This statement cannot be proved as fact, ONLY as an opinion.

meat 03-26-2008 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharroll Celby (Post 828325)
We haven't been attacked here because of George W. Bush, his policies, and the departments he has empowered through excellent work as the President of the United States.

This statement cannot be proved as fact, ONLY as an opinion.
Nope. It can be proven through agency reports, research, and the FACT that we haven't been attacked here.

Duh.

Your statement, on the other hand, is just an opinion.

Your pal,
Meat.

Sharroll Celby 03-26-2008 05:46 PM
ALL these posts are opinions. Deal with it.

Jamo 03-26-2008 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 828276)
Hey Jamo,
I don't think I'm quite sure what you want to do with my horse, but I hear you guys in CA are into some mighty queer things.

Or maybe you are just a third grader incapable of a real response.

Either way, enjoy youself.

Steve
Nope...I just enjoy third grade humor. Reach behind and pull them shorts oughtta your crack. :p

Jamo 03-26-2008 06:33 PM
I don't know, my beloved snakehead compadre...fact is, we haven't been attacked within our borders again since 9/11 despite numerous calls for such activitiy by Osama and his fellow travelers. Truth is, I'd rather have the war go on for another 100 years in the Middle East than have a single building come down again in these here United States. And yes...regardless of why we went into Iraq, it sent a message to the entire region. Yes, we've lost 4,000 good folks and thousands more have been injured...but at least they were prepared to fight for their country. The folks in their offices at the WTC weren't prepared for what they got.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that some folks forget what our guts felt like that morning...

http://www.crystalinks.com/attackwtc.jpg

Sharroll Celby 03-26-2008 10:43 PM
NO ONE can tell EXACTLY why we have not been attacked since 9/11. Did the terrorists blow their whole wad on that day?

Everyone has opinions, and that is ALL they are, is opinions.

Jamo 03-27-2008 12:18 AM
I s'pose so, mi amigo.

I am of the opinion that I do not weigh more than you. Mother Earth simply has a greater attraction to me.

;)

427 S/O 03-27-2008 06:39 AM
QUOTE Sharroll Celby: NO ONE can tell EXACTLY why we have not been attacked since 9/11.


Celby, did you conveniently forget those U.S. terrorist cells that were stopped before they could act?. How EXACTLY were they stopped??.

Wayne Maybury 03-27-2008 09:50 AM
I believe that the Chinese are going to be a bigger threat to the US than the Isamic terrorists are. If it weren't for a galzillion barrels of oil, these Arabs would just be out in the dessert chasing each other around on the backs of camels.

The Chinese on the other hand are about to surpass the US both economically and militarily. They are increasing military spending by double digit amounts, year after year after year. Right now it is Tibet, in another year or two they will be taking over Taiwan. A few years after that, who knows? There will be little that the US or anyone else can do to stop their aggression. Oh, and they aren't worried about terrorists because they will just kill them.

All of the above is just my opinion.

Wayne

meat 03-27-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury (Post 828504)
Oh, and they aren't worried about terrorists because they will just kill them.
Which is, of course, the proper course of action.

Your pal,
Meat.

Jamo 03-27-2008 11:23 AM
It's them damn Canadians that worry me...asspecially them there Frenchies.

meat 03-27-2008 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 828536)
It's them damn Canadians that worry me...asspecially them there Frenchies.
Yeah. It's like they have a different word for everything.

Your pal,
Meat.

will butterwort 03-27-2008 01:00 PM
Jamo
 
where did you get that?Pretty good. News points to maqtada sadir turning loose his dogs of war right now--show down with new government, blew basra pipeline.Folks--ya,ll just need to be glad i am not the president.There ain,t no halfass wars, . Will-alabama

will butterwort 03-27-2008 01:04 PM
Jamo
 
picture of BUSH shooting a bird. He needs to aim one at Pelosi.Will-alabama

bomelia 03-27-2008 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 828236)

Steve's horse ain't that tall. In fact, he can drop his feet and walk at the same time.

Frolic... shame shame. Give credit when it is due. I know, it sucks when you've got little to blame on Bush. Its almost huricane season again... so you'll have fodder soon enough.

Mike


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