Catching Wild Pigs

[Ron61]

When will American's learn the truth.... watch out who you vote for......

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class.. One day while the class was in the lab the Prof noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist government.

In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, ' Do you know how to catch wild pigs?'

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke. 'You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in The last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them a n d catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America . The government keeps pushing us toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, free medical, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms - just a little at a time.

One should always remember 'There is no such thing as a free lunch! Also, a politician will never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

Also, if you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America , you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the gate slams shut!

'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' ....... Thomas Jefferson

Ron

[J. T. Toad]

Don't forget that we will soon need a permit to get a permit to get a government approved permitted knife in order to 'harvest' the pig on the day in which we have a permit to harvest pigs.... now that I write this, I would imagine we would need to get a permit to have an inspector insure the harvesting was done correctly.

[J. T. Toad]

BTW, considering today's tax structure I, respectfully, would have to disagree with the unearned tax credit.

Go flat tax!

[trularin]

I just shoot them.

[427 S/O]

J.T., I sure wish the 'flat tax' would gain some momentum, I think?. There are a couple more out there but I don't know enought about them to make a decision?.

[AMF]

Originally Posted by 427 S/O

J.T., I sure wish the 'flat tax' would gain some momentum, I think?. There are a couple more out there but I don't know enought about them to make a decision?.

The problem with any sort of tax revision in our country is that the politicians are not disciplined enough to execute it.

There are several ideas out there on how to improve our tax system, the biggest (and most pragmatic) opponents to all of them have to do with implimentation.

Social Security was never meant to be permanent. Income tax was never meant to be permanent. You see it all the time with local and state taxes as well. Something that's meant to be a temporary tax and a finite vehicle for generating money for a public function gets renewed well after it's initial intended use.

Once a road goes to a toll road, it'll never go back to an open and free road. That's the nature of the beast.

THE best tax system we could have would to have a national sales tax. A consumption based system. There are SOOOOO many advantages to it. It encourages people to save, rather than spend. (the more you save, the less taxes you pay). It taxes people across all income levels fairly. (while still progressively taxing the largest wage earners...who tend to be the largest consumers). It would greatly simplify the IRS.

The only problem is....again. Flat tax. National Sales tax. You'd never be able to fully get rid of our current system while transitioning to the next system. And then what we'd have is BOTH systems and we'd be royally F'ed. We have a new system in place with the old legacy system still being renewed.

[J. T. Toad]

encourage saving? well that isn't the government way!

[AMF]

Originally Posted by J. T. Toad

encourage saving? well that isn't the government way!

Unfortunately it's not the American way. The majority of our country is in credit debt (including our own government).

We wouldn't need a social security network if people would save 10% of the money they make instead of spending 10% more than they make and putting it on credit cards.

Only in America are "poverty" and obesity in the same thought (how can you be starving if you're fat?).

The problem is that our consumeristic society demands that we spend more and more. People won't buy a plane jane washing machine. They have to have the machine with 14 settings and bells and whistles. Same with cars, appliances, clothes.

If we had a consumption based system, the more money that you save, the less money you pay to uncle Sam. The more money you invest, the more money you save. Companies would benefit because it would encourage investment.

It would also help alleviate the growing employment crisis in America. Temp staffing is quickly becoming one of the largest industries in our country. It's already a $150BN/year industry. Employers can't afford to hire full time employees anymore, because our socialist programs cost way too damn much. Between social security, workman's comp, etc, it costs so much to hire full time employees, comapnies are opting to "temp" more and more.

The unfortunate side effects are that we're growing a generation of amateurs. How do you become a lifelong professional if you're a temp? The answer is....you don't.

But again, the scary thing is....whatever we would "switch" to...would require some sort of transitional period and that's where we'd get screwed. The new system would have to go into place to phase out the old system and our illustrious politicians would simply keep voting to renew the old system. We'd get double F'ed.

[J. T. Toad]

AMF for president!

correction? like our current housing "crisis" (more accurately a situation because of what consumers have reaped, ok and lenders also)

BRING IT!

[meat]

Originally Posted by Ron61

'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' ....... Thomas Jefferson

Bro. Gerald Ford said that when addressing Congress back in 1974.

Jefferson, Barry Goldwater and even Ronald Reagan have been mistakenly credited with that quote.

Doesn't take anything away from the story, though! Good one!

Your pal,
Meat.

[Ron61]

Meat,

I just posted what I received. I don't bother to look to see if the quote is correct as most of the story I felt was quite on the mark. Having know Jefferson and how he had a penchant to say things at times without thinking, I wouldn't have put it past him to say something like that. After all, back in those times most of the people were considered radicals if not downright traitors to England. Thank God for them and their nerve to stand up to the crap then. Wish our leaders had that kind of nerve today.

Ron

[meat]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Wish our leaders had that kind of nerve today.

TRUE leaders do have that kind of nerve. I believe that George W. Bush has that kind of nerve. Look at the work he's done and the continued way he runs the country. Reading the newspapers, I can see where the weak link is:

"Democrats Complain..." - New York Times
"Democrats Complain..." - Washinton Post
"Leading Senate Democrats today accused..." - New York Times
"three Democrats are charging..." - The Raw Story
"Spending bills move; Democrats complain..." - Nation
"Democratic lawmakers are complaining" - Topix
"Democrats complain..." - Radio Iowa
"Democrats Complain..." - Fox News
"Democrats Complain..." - CNN
"Democrats accused..." - Reuters
"The Democratic Party of New Mexico is accusing..." - Free New Mexican
"Democrats accuse Bush..." - New York Times
"Democrats accuse Bush..." - Science Magazine
"Democrats accuse... - San Francisco Chronicle

For a party that had a "First 100 Days" plan and promised that we'd be out of Iraq within 6 weeks after taking control of Congress a year ago, and that they'd "stop Bush" ... well, let's just say that - in reviewing the Congressional Record - the only thing they've done (besides name Post Offices and bridges) is complain and accuse. Lots of posturing, virtually no substance. It's pretty easy to see where the problems in Washington stem from.

Bush, on the other hand, has continued to get everything he planned on. No complaining. No accusing. He let the Democrats build their own fences and lock their own doors...

Your pal,
Meat.

[J. T. Toad]

Originally Posted by meat

Bush, on the other hand, has continued to get everything he planned on. No complaining. No accusing. He let the Democrats build their own fences and lock their own doors...

Your pal,
Meat.

Do you mean Big Government? Yes, he has performed that quite well.

Calling a spade a spade. If Bush is/WAS such a great leader, why is it that the primary has resulted in most of the voting public unsure of the outcome of the next election? I don't see real confident posturing by the McCain camp.

[meat]

Originally Posted by J. T. Toad

Do you mean Big Government?

I wrote exactly what I mean. If simple English continues to baffle you, I recommend a remedial reading and comprehension course.

Your pal,
Meat.