Pave Tibet!

meat · #1 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 12:41 PM

It's a shame that there are so many idiot protesters out there attacking a world event like the Olympics. An event that is to bring us all together as a people of a planet to cheer for athletes who have given up so much to get to the position where they can represent their country at a sporting event.

While I'm not all that much of a sports guy, and the Olympics will probably interrupt My Name Is Earl, How I Met Your Mother, Two And A Half Men and Family Guy, I still root for the home team, and passingly note how many medals which country has won.

The arrogance of some who would choose to turn this into some kind of vitriolic political sh!t storm shows that there are some that don't learn much from history. The more they attack and protest, the greater the number of people they alienate.

There was a time when I may have cared what happened to Tibet. Now, I truly don't. If the Chinese leveled the landlocked country and built condos or a nice automotive plant, it'd be just fine by me at this point. And, apparently, I'm not alone; interviews with bystanders seem to echo this same sentiment.

Your pal,
Meat.

Silverback51 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 01:27 PM

D@mn, I think this is the first time I have totally agreed with you.

What is this world coming to?

Joe Wicked · #3 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 01:58 PM

OK, I missed it, what was the protest?

Jamo · #4 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 02:27 PM

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OK, I missed it, what was the protest?

Tibetians are suffocating gerbels with their asses...animals rights protestors.

4RE KLR · #5 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 05:56 PM

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D@mn, I think this is the first time I have totally agreed with you.

What is this world coming to?

HOLY SMOKE.................

Me too.

427 S/O · #6 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 01:59 PM

They are, not exactly paving but a RR. China said they were making it more accessible, come to find out the region is awash in minerals and ore. Some serious mining bout' to start.

Ron61 · #7 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 02:15 PM

Joe,

Some of the so called equal rights and other types like that are using the Olympics as a political platform for their protests of how China is treating Tibet. I agree with Meat on this one. The Olympics are for sports and not political agendas.

Ron

GlynMeek · #8 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 05:07 PM

"The arrogance of some who would choose to turn this into some kind of vitriolic political sh!t storm shows that there are some that don't learn much from history."

and

"Some of the so called equal rights and other types like that are using the Olympics as a political platform for their protests of how China is treating Tibet. I agree with Meat on this one. The Olympics are for sports and not political agendas."

ooooh...Gentlemen...we live in a glass house...let us NOT throw stones!!!!!

If "The olympics are for sports and not for political agendas", why did we boycott the 1980 Oympics in Russia??????

Glyn

Jamo · #9 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

"The arrogance of some who would choose to turn this into some kind of vitriolic political sh!t storm shows that there are some that don't learn much from history."

and

"Some of the so called equal rights and other types like that are using the Olympics as a political platform for their protests of how China is treating Tibet. I agree with Meat on this one. The Olympics are for sports and not political agendas."

ooooh...Gentlemen...we live in a glass house...let us NOT throw stones!!!!!

If "The olympics are for sports and not for political agendas", why did we boycott the 1980 Oympics in Russia??????

Glyn

Because democrats, liberals and other such representatives of the lowest depths of humanity voted for Carter...

Note that Bill's wife is pushing Bush to boycott the opening ceremonies in China.

If warriors from Athens and Sparta could put their differences aside, oil down and share a few boys together...can't we all just get along?

meat · #10 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

If "The olympics are for sports and not for political agendas", why did we boycott the 1980 Oympics in Russia??????

Jimmy Carter.

Your pal,
Meat.

cdnus · #11 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 08:40 PM

I can't believe you guys!!!!
You are sacraficing wonderfull young mens lives every day in a war you will NEVER win, yet you will not allow an equally opressed populus to protest or fight their war in the only way they have available to them.
I thought you guys were much more gracious than that.
Your small mindedness is shocking to say the least.

Excaliber · #12 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 06:40 PM

I was surprised to find that the Spartans really did 'share boys' among them. In fact many armies of the time actually encouraged homosexuality as a method to unite the troops into a closer band. You might not be willing to die for your country, but you would be willing to die for your 'partner' kind of logic. Very strange...

GlynMeek · #13 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 09:00 PM

Meat, Jamo...you can blame an individual President all you like (since MOST presidents (other than George W) have been fairly elected by the MAJORITY of Americans), but it does NOT deny the fact that WE, as the American people, DID boycott an Olympic games, and WE, as the American people, DID use the Olympics for a political agenda. To quote the bible (although this particular set of verses was actually added by a monk in the 9th century!!!!!) ..."let he who is without sin cast the first stone"!

Like it or not, and I happen to agree that Presidents do NOT always expressly act on the wish of the people (e.g. George W), WE, the American people, HAVE used sports repeatedly for political agendas!!!

Blame it on who you like, but WE are in no position to criticize this kind of action...sorry guys, much as I might agree with you on other issues, on this one you're wrong (or at least, historically incorrect!)

meat · #14 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

Meat, Jamo...you can blame an individual President all you like

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

Blame it on who you like, but WE are in no position to criticize this kind of action...sorry guys, much as I might agree with you on other issues, on this one you're wrong (or at least, historically incorrect!)

err...Nope.

Carter may have made a remarkably unpopular decision (well, he made many...), but he didn't send out protesters from other countries to disrupt the event. His idiotic decision didn't sway public opinion away from his cause.

A boycott is significantly different than what is going on right now with the torch.

So ... nope, not wrong. Not even historically incorrect.

Your pal,
Meat.

427sharpe · #15 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 07:54 AM

Whoa! For a minute there, I was beginning to feel that somebody had hijacked meat'a account! Now the last couple of posts have put me at ease!

As far as the protesters...look at who turns out! A bunch of kooks who will protest anything as long as a camera is present. They give $20 a year to Greenpeace and gather in their eco-friendly grass sandals at Starbucks to bemoan globilization by corporate America while sipping $7 cups of coffee made from naturally fertilized coffee beans raised in a hermetically sealed environment. They give money to Hillary and Obama but don't have the time to find out what either really stands for; they watch CNN and the Huffington Post is their New Testament, MoveOn.Org is their church. They live in upper middle to upper class apartments filled with high end electronics---usually alone or in pairs---and cry about what goes on in the 'hood and in the wars...at least what they see on TV because they've never actually been there and they don't know anybody who has, except for the 'reporters' from the above, of course.
And how is this funded? Easy! MOMMIE AND DADDIE! You know, the two stiffs who worked their a$$es off a whole lifetime to provide better for their kids and who are now seen by same as the 'lazy bourgoise' and 'infected by American propaganda' about hard work and true dedication and patriotism. Ahhh...what a great country we have built on the foundations of what was handed us....

cdnus · #16 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 09:15 AM

Meat
You obviously did not take the time or effort to understand my reply, as simple as it was.
You assumed a lot of things that could not be futher from the truth & twisted my words to meanings that suited your agenda, not mine.
At this point I don't like to think about your agenda, it sounds pretty scary to me.
Re: The olympics
If you think for 1 min. that they are not politicaly driven from choosing the site to the closing ceremonies you are very niave.

meat · #17 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cdnus

You obviously did not take the time or effort to understand my reply, as simple as it was.

Naah. I took all the time that was necessary to read and understand your post. And yes I do agree; like you, it is indeed ... simple.

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Originally Posted by cdnus

You assumed a lot of things that could not be futher from the truth & twisted my words to meanings that suited your agenda, not mine.

I assumed nothing at all about your post - you're the one who wrote it, you're the one with the agenda. I twisted nothing other than your ego by exposing you for what you truly are.

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Originally Posted by cdnus

At this point I don't like to think about your agenda, it sounds pretty scary to me.

I don't have an agenda. I have an opinion.

And my opinion is that your puddle of knowledge is shallow and evaporating over time. And THAT should scare you.

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If you think for 1 min.

I think constantly, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You should try it.

Your pal,
Meat.

GlynMeek · #18 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by meat

Thanks.
A boycott is significantly different than what is going on right now with the torch.

Dear god, now you are splitting semantic hairs and merely providing popcorn fodder for the masses...lol

philosophically, it is NO different, it is merely a different way of expressing the philosophy!

G

Jamo · #19 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

Dear god, now you are splitting semantic hairs and merely providing popcorn fodder for the masses...lol

philosophically, it is NO different, it is merely a different way of expressing the philosophy!

G

...and, therefore, Munich was a philosophical group hug to be followed by a promised helicopter ride.

A raised fist, a boycott, assualts on torch runners, or blowing up some atheletes...no lines to be drawn anywhere?

Interesting discussion, BTW. We're looking at it from Westernized-First Amendment-60's Protests eyes...the rest of the world sees things a bit differently.

meat · #20 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

Dear god,

I'm going to have to stop you right there. The name is 'meat.'

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Originally Posted by GlynMeek

now you are splitting semantic hairs and merely providing popcorn fodder for the masses...lol

philosophically, it is NO different, it is merely a different way of expressing the philosophy!

Not ... Even ... Close.

Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about. You've written yourself into quite a corner.

Your pal,
Meat.