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Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.
950,000 have signed the petition so far.With enough voices,maybe-just maybe,congress will get off their dead a$$es.
"As gas prices continue to increase, Congress continues to blame others while ignoring practical steps to stop the pain Americans are feeling at the pump. To lower gasoline prices and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, we need real solutions to our energy challenges." http://www.americansolutions.com/act...b-346a1e096659 |
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Fred, I am not at all against our trying to drill and provide more of our own oil but that is not going to solve the problem. I feel the only thing that is going to really make any difference is to cut back on what we use. As long as Americans feel there is no end to the oil, they are just going to keep using it as fast as they can. We really need to provide more of our own as China and other developing countries are using more and more of the imported oil from the oil exporting countries. But unless we cut back and stop using more and more, there is no way to stop the inevitable ending of this. We need to concentrate on more ways to make alternative fuel instead of just making a token effort to please a few and letting the oil companies continue to make record profits every quarter. Wish I know of a way to make some kind of alternative fuel that was both efficient and clean. I could sell it to the oil companies for millions so they could keep it off the market. Ron :LOL: |
This isn't a "solution" to the problem. It's like using a band-aid to stop the bleeding after your arm has been ripped off.
We need real solutions. I'm not sure what they are, but spending our taxpayer money to pop more holes in the ground so a few oil companies can hit more record profits doesn't exactly thrill me. Here's a quicker solution: Tell your representatives to remove the $.54/gal import tax on ethanol from Brazil. That will drop prices quite a bit in the very near future. |
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We need to use every tool we have available.I can't see anything positive coming from handcuffing ourselves. There is no short term answer to this problem.Everything that we can do will take years to pay off. So,the sooner we get on with it,the sooner we will see results.Like if we had been serious 10 years ago about developing our own resourses at home. The Government (taxpayer) doesn't drill or foot the bill for exploring & drilling.Their job seems to be collecting money from the people that do take the risks and also getting in the way of progress. The import tax you mention is a fine example. |
drill thru a caribu's belly if it helps......
i'm with ya on this fred, signed the petition 2 weeks ago....newt maybe a tad
goofy but he's correct on this one. the boys that live in californication should be more proactive since some oil reserves are off their coast, note the way its set up the states that produce oil get tax breaks, see alaska pipeline data. i am sure californians want higher taxes right? hell kill some whales and use the oil from them to heat our homes, |
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http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5773/mf9gy.gif http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-conte...lingsupply.gif From http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3484 No Drilling. No New Refineries. Get a Horse! By Alan Caruba Friday, June 13, 2008 I keep wondering how long it will take Americans to connect the dots and figure out why the most powerful economy the world has ever seen cannot manage to drill for oil in its own backyard and then get it refined nearby. The news on June 10, if anyone was paying attention, was about the way the Natural Resources Defense Council and other environmental groups were able to thwart the plans of ConocoPhillips to expand its refinery in Roxana, Illinois. An appeal to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was upheld because, said the EPA, its air permit, previously granted, just did not meet all the excruciating requirements involved. For the record, ConocoPhillips was and is prepared to invest an estimated $1 billion to add a second coker, otherwise known as a crude oil processor. The company wants to expand in order to process Canadian tar sands oil. These days it refines approximately 306,000 barrels of oil per day to produce gasoline, jet fuel, diesel, asphalt and other products.” This explains in part why ExxonMobil has just announced it will sell off its gas stations because the real money is made “upstream” as they say in the oil industry. The profits from the “downstream”, in this case at the pump, are so small as to be a drag on earnings. All those members of Congress that want to punish the oil companies for making a profit should check the balance sheet. From 2003 to 2007, ExxonMobil paid taxes (in all forms) in the amount of $64.7 billion. This actually exceeded its U.S. earnings by more than $19 billion! You do the math. Exploration, discovery, and drilling are where the money is. Wisely, this company has diversified into chemicals and a variety of petroleum related products. Meanwhile, the only thing that the Greens are pumping is more hot air about global warming. According to the Sierra Club, “climate change is decimating many species” and pushing Congress to pass the Global Warming Wildlife Survival Act. Another name for it might as well be the “Do Not Drill for Oil, Mine for Coal, and Build a Pipeline for Natural Gas Act.” The world is not running out of polar bears, but Americans who have to pay $4 plus for a gallon of gasoline are beginning—at last—to run out of patience. Over at Friends of the Earth, they are very annoyed that America’s high school students studying civics might read a new textbook that raises questions about global warming and/or climate change, based on real science, not the lies they and other Greens have been putting out for decades. FOE is currently flogging something they call “climate equity.” According to them, “The next President must acknowledge that the U.S. has contributed more global warming pollution to our atmosphere than any other nation.” Oh yeah? What about those coal-fired plants that China can’t build fast enough to provide electricity? Or comparable efforts in India to meet the needs of a growing economy? In the end, the Greens are utterly opposed to any development, i.e., modernization, anywhere and they don’t care how many lies they have to tell. Actually, they don’t have to worry that much. The next President will either be a Democrat who wants to further destroy what’s left of the oil industry in America or a Republican who believes global warming is real. The Greens here in America don’t want you to drive your car, your truck, your tractor or that big Harley-Davidson hog. They don’t want any oil company to drill for oil anywhere on or offshore of America. They don’t want any new refineries built. In short, get a horse! |
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Drilling for oil is "one" of the ways to help us to become energy independent. But no "one" source of energy will turn it around. It will have to be a collection of sources. We also need to pursue solar power, wind turbines, tidal power, nuclear power plants, thermal energy, etc, along with energy conservation. The Congress for the last 30 years has put the clamps on most of our energy production/exploration with all of the jumping thru hoops that the EPA and other federal regulations require to use any of the energy sources above. So what do the big energy companies do ... they go where they are welcomed with open arms ... the Middle East, Venezuela and other countries. It is just not profitable for the big energy companies to "invest" in energy production in the USA. When (and if) this country puts together an energy policy that makes sense and allows a company to make a profit, then and only then, will you see the percentage of imported oil go down. Did someone mention windfall profit tax? Brilliant idea if you want the price of gas to jump another dollar or two the day that bill passes Congress. |
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my wallet has become politicized :CRY: |
Without going into a lot of detail, you may want to take a look at the 2005 Energy bill that was passed. Take a look at how your tax dollars are being given to big oil companies for exploration and drilling purposes. Don't forget all the other tax incentives they were also given. The number commonly thrown around is $14 billion in taxpayer subsidies, although with all the other tax loopholes, it could be a lot more (or less).
Just an FYI...Exxon's exploration has decreased dramatically over the last few years even though the subsidies were given to increase exploration. There are only a few answers to our oil problems, and thinking that drilling for more oil in the U.S. is going to cure them are wrong. Drill all you want. All the known reserves in the U.S. wouldn't supply us for 6 months at our current usage. We need new sources...REAL ethanol manufacturing, oil shale, natural gas, hydrogen, etc. As for a post above about all the environmental wackos stopping a refinery, most of the time, although they speak the loudest, the real cause of not building new refineries is the NIMBY crowd, or the oil companies themselves. Most refineries are running at capacity now, which is what they want. Why build more when you can create a bottleneck and increase prices/profits? Quote:
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It requires 1,500 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol. (Woe be unto hippies) If the entire corn production of the US was devoted to ethanol production it would replace a whopping 9% of our gasoline use. We have plenty of oil. Environmentalists are hell bent on making America weak and they are getting help in Congress. This problem is a government-made problem. If the market were permitted to work, there would be no issue. When there is a better alternative fuel (read: lower cost, more efficient) the market will bring it about. |
Yes, corn ethanol is inefficient, but in Brazil, they use sugar cane which gets 2.5 more ethanol per acre and has a higher BTU content. This makes it 3 times better than corn for the same dollar. 727-870 gal/per acre for sugar cane vs. 321 gal/acre for corn.
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I am just wondering how many of those "go get a horse" advocates actually ride a horse to the grocery store, to church, to the bank to the office in a suit in 110* heat......
Post pictures of your ass on a horse in a business suit going to a board meeting why don't ya? I say drill in the damn middle of of the white house lawn if it will help the economy. I could give a rats ass about some damn spotted owl. Lumber prices went up 25% because of some damn bird no one ever heard of. For the money we (and you) paid to save the damn bird they could have caught and relocated every single bird on the entire planet. Yes there needs to be some common sense but all you folks that are yelling "No drilling" should pile your ass on a horse and lead the brigade. When you do that maybe some will follow, but no me! |
Who is saying "no drilling"? We're saying "let's spend the money elsewhere and find a real alternative". Drilling every known reserve in the U.S. still isn't going to do squat for us in the long run. We need long term solutions. Not band-aids like we've been doing since the early 70's.
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The brain dead dems say 'no drilling', it's all over the news?..... Ya know!, we couldn't be in a more critical or perfect time, alternative is the word and all kinds of companies and individuals are working on that magic word...BUT..wake up!..our economy MUST go on until we have it figured out!. DRILL...DRILL..
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If we overnight could triple the enery producted by solar, wind and geothermal energy, the total from those 3 would jump all the way to 2% of the energy used in the USA. |
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Gee, I haven't been on here in awhile. Wow wee. Yep my single biggest expense other than my mortage is gasoline. Fred, here's some bad news....... Even if there was a magical pipeline that appeared out of nowhere that produced the highest quality of gasoline on earth and was giving to Big Oil, why would still rape the mid and low class peeps here in the USA. So, more oil/gas is not the answer, we already have more supply than demand. If you don't think that we have more supply than demand, when is the last time that you saw stations w/out gas? For my area, it's been about 35 years. Cobra de capell, on 1-20-01 in my area gas was $.96 a gallon. During the summer of '06 gas was that $3.15 a gallon. Right before the Nov 06 election, it dropped from $3.05 down to $1.95 a gallon, then by summer 07 it was back up to almost $3.00 a gallon and hasn't looked back since. Friday, I saw unleaded for $3.91/gallon. This is my area and based on you state taxes, it may be higher. Even if all the oil drilling bans were lifted, Big Oil would just send the oil to Communist China. Paul |
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Thanks for reining me in on this.I'm not positive how I got so far off base on oil & drilling. As devious as Bush is I think blaming him would be a safe bet though. |
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No one is saying this is the end of all problems but we could use the "band aid" to stop the bleeding while we fix the broken backs of Americans. Wake up for crying out loud. The economy must keep moving and with what 400% increase in fuel what do you think will be the end result for our food cost. |
Only 211 more days of the Tyrant Dictator Bush in office.
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