Gingrich video on oil

[cobra bill]

And you are stereo typing, I would say its way more likely your ideology will go down in flames, That's the one thing bush did right, showed the world what you guys are all about!

Originally Posted by jmimac351

Bill, I'd say I pretty much sized you up perfectly because you are like 99% of liberals. It's like getting a Big Mac - you always know what to expect. I don't expect to change your mind because you're a lost cause. I just want your ideology defeated.

Completely.

[diegokid]

Well my grandson just came over. I have promised to read him a book by Ted Bell titled Nick of Time. This book is about the kind of heroes I want my grandson to learn about.

He is only six and already understands that if you have a whole lot of something it isn't worth as much as something else that is harder to acquire. I wonder if he can understand that when certain parties in the government want to tax everything to raise more money for more government so when the price of that product goes up so does their cut. I'm sure he does, if not I'll teach him.

He also knows if HE catches a fish out of pawpaws pond we will have fish for supper. Some will understand this some won't those that don't are usually the problem.

[427 S/O]

Like I've said, come election time many of these law makers will have some stiff competition from candidates willing to make us self sustaining.

[nevermind65]

And they will ALL be liars. Unless we build a few million windmills and run all our cars on electricity produced by those windmills, we will never be self-sustaining.

Originally Posted by 427 S/O

Like I've said, come election time many of these law makers will have some stiff competition from candidates willing to make us self sustaining.

[diegokid]

I am a conservative, I am a Christian and I do cling to my religion. I also served 23 years in the Military. I volunteered, I wasn't drafted. If liberals are so damn smart why is the approval rating of congress at an all time low of 9%.

I find it funny that a liberal was the first one to get nasty on this post. I guess that comes with being so self righteous and knowing whats best for everyone.

[cobra bill]

Point taken, though being called a maggot is not exactly a friendly gesture!
And for your information I was not drafted I volunteered!

And just what kind of Christian do you call your self, and who's Bible do you read? Most I find are not very Christian like!

The reason congress has such a low approval rating is a little procedure called filibuster, the republicans have all but shut down congress using the filibuster an un-presidented amount of times. So to the uninformed it seems they get nothing done, Let's see I think the Republicans wanted to use the nuclear option when the Democrats wanted to filibuster for a judicial nomination. This was a well known plane by the republicans to make the democratically controlled house appear like they cant do anything. I do have to hand it to the conservatives they know how to play the game! But its a deceitful game and they have a lot of folks suckered into there deceit
and treachery!

Originally Posted by diegokid

I am a conservative, I am a Christian and I do cling to my religion. I also served 23 years in the Military. I volunteered, I wasn't drafted. If liberals are so damn smart why is the approval rating of congress at an all time low of 9%.

I find it funny that a liberal was the first one to get nasty on this post. I guess that comes with being so self righteous and knowing whats best for everyone.

[rms427]

Cobra Bill.

I agree we are all Americans but a few of your statements are not correct. The most oil sold overseas from Alaska was 7%. It actually makes sense at times because shipping costs nets the US more value than what it costs to purchase the oil elsewhere. The Alaska Oil is considered sour but only mildly so. It is not a poor quality oil which you can tell by the price they get for it. Recently it was over $140 per barrel. As for the government not getting anything for the leases. As an example the company I worked for payed 318 million for a lease offshore California back in the 80's and spent about 2 billion total to develop it and then never made back the investment. The oil companies have paid billions for leases. They also pay royalties, income taxes etc. Most of the millions of acres of land that you talk about have been picked over for years. Some are in development and some are non productive. You are correct that IF oil stays at $140 per barrel many of these leases are now viable. However, in the past oil prices have not remained high. Oil companies have gone through many booms and busts. I retired because I got tired of laying folks off because of low oil prices. The company I worked for is spending more on exploration and development than the profit they make. By the way the major oil companies do not control much oil these days. As I remember it's about 5%. Most of the oil is owned by the governments that don't like us.

I actually think high oil prices are what we need to get us off our duffs to conserve and develop alternate fuel sources. We need our own energy sources so we are not dependent on countries that don't like us. However the amounts of energy needed are mind boggling. So it won't be easy. So for the interim opening up the the North Slope and all offshore areas while developing alternates is the way to go.

[cobra bill]

OK I stand corrected on those points, and I do agree we need to get off our duffs and come up with an alternative fuel source, We are Americans, and there's nothing we cant do if we put our minds to it. As for drilling of the north slope, I'm not apposed to it we have come a long way in how we do things on fragile ecosystems, and I agree the high price is not a bad thing it will get us moving in a direction of energy independence, but we will never drill our way out of this mess.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

I agree the high price is not a bad thing it will get us moving in a direction of energy independence, but we will never drill our way out of this mess.

Game, set, match. This is exactly what liberals want because it will weaken America.

Bill, move to Europe. This guy is not going to let America become a stagnant pond like Europe without a fight so get used to it.

[cobra bill]

Ha! Good one, its not what I wanted, this is a result of the bush administration, I just agreed that it would no doubt in the end be a good thing! We might just get off our asses and do something.
Now if you think you are more of an American then I prove it! What have you done for our country!

[diegokid]

Blaming Bush doesn't solve anything. Where do you think we would be with Kerry in charge? Worse yet if Bush and Cheny said to hell with it who would be in charge? Do you really want this country ran by the likes of Pelosi?

[Scott S]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

What have you done for our country!

Served in the Air Force

Raised a competent family

Pay my mortgage with out a bailout

Served as a Mayor, city councilor, planning commission member and on the school budget committee

Employ 10+ not including subs

Pay one hell of a lot in taxes....

And all the while perturbing any liberal walking by.

Life is good....

Scott S

[CobraDan]

We have one presidential candidate who says we should not go after oil in the gulf because it will be 10 years before we would have any oil from this new well and there would be no immediate relief in gas prices. The other candidate wants to open up the same areas for new oil. We have an oil well now in the gulf that has been pumping for 10 years but it has only about 8 -10 more years of production left before the well runs dry. That tells me if we allowed this new well that at least it would take over for the old well that no longer produces. Back in the seventies I remember long lines at the pumps because of an oil embargo and over thirty years later we are still having the same problems. It seems that at $4.00 a gallon maybe we will try harder to support other means of transportation fuels.

[computerworks]

Tom started the thread as informational.

I was glad to see some of the early respondents trying to stifle ideological replies...

..but we know that doesn't happen for long.

I will move this discussion to the Lounge, where we give you some more latitude in content.

thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator

[imagine2frolic]

Everybody knows the U.S. oil companies inventied the tree huggers. That way they could be last ones with oil when all other countries are spent.....CONSPIRACY .........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:JEKY LHYDE