Dems Target 410Ks

[Ron61]

Fred,

I think that there was just a post or so that didn't come out the way they were meant to. I just picked one off the page of over 100 news links that looked interesting to me, especially since Theresa G. was involved. And though none of this is likely to happen, I feel that we should keep an eye on what is even being talked about. Not that they would pay any attention to us if we called in to complain.

Oh why wasn't I a politician so I wouldn't have to know anything and could live off the people.


Ron

[bomelia]

I hesitate to mention this. Perhaps it is a coincidence. Clay has been gone from this particular forum for sometime (and I respect and like him, so go easy on me Clay). Yet I wonder at the recent reapearance so close to the election. Some time ago, Clay blasted me for slamming McCain as a not so true conservative. I was reminded (by Clay) that McCain was a true American hero (I agree). But to this day, though I voted for him, I never felt he had a true conservative's heart. It is, I believe, why he lost. So, after all of Clay's support for McCain then, I wonder who he really supported in this last election.

OK, as Freddie would say, duck & cover, I'm heading for safer ground.

Adios,

Mike

[VRM]

Mike,
I'll back you on this one. McCain looked to be a continuation of the last 8 years, and with an approval rating for Bush of around 22% running on coattails was not going to be a good idea.
The GOP has not been conservative for years. The GOP has been taken over by a bunch of religious zealots who think they can spend without taxing. The DNC has done a better job of living within their means the the GOP has of late. Palin got it right when she said:
"I think the Republican ticket represented too much of the status quo, too much of what had gone on in these last eight years, that Americans were kind of shaking their heads like going, wait a minute, how did we run up a 10 trillion dollar debt in a Republican administration? How have there been blunders with war strategy under a Republican administration? If we're talking change, we want to get far away from what it was that the present administration represented and that is to a great degree what the Republican Party at the time had been representing. So people desiring change I think went as far from the administration that is presently seated as they could. It's amazing that we did as well as we did."

The GOP screwed up big time, and has been doing so for a while. Time to figure out where they went wrong and fix it. Maybe in time for the next election, maybe not.
But I do have to say that you were one of the ones who defended a lot of the policies that got us where we are now - and that is not conservatism either. The GOP needs to go back to its roots - personally, I think Freddie would be a good place to start!

[clayfoushee]

Originally Posted by bomelia

I hesitate to mention this. Perhaps it is a coincidence. Clay has been gone from this particular forum for sometime (and I respect and like him, so go easy on me Clay). Yet I wonder at the recent reapearance so close to the election. Some time ago, Clay blasted me for slamming McCain as a not so true conservative. I was reminded (by Clay) that McCain was a true American hero (I agree). But to this day, though I voted for him, I never felt he had a true conservative's heart. It is, I believe, why he lost. So, after all of Clay's support for McCain then, I wonder who he really supported in this last election.

OK, as Freddie would say, duck & cover, I'm heading for safer ground.

Adios,

Mike

LOL Mike. Ok, I'll go easy on you.

Mike, I don't recall the exact post you're referring to some time ago, but I am quite sure I wouldn't have "blasted" you for rationally pointing out that Senator McCain's record does not reflect "pure" or "true" conservative positions, whatever that means. If you'd only said that, I would have agreed with you. About the only reason I would have blasted you is if you mixed it in with some sort of character attack.

I have a great deal of respect for Senator McCain, and he is, indeed, a true American hero. That is not the same as believing that he was the right choice for President. I did not for numerous reasons. I tend to be a what some would call a "centrist," and I always try to keep an open mind. In this election, I did strongly support Senator Obama.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by clayfoushee

In this election, I did strongly support Senator Obama.

Really? ...who woulda figured that?

[clayfoushee]

Originally Posted by computerworks

Really? ...who woulda figured that?

Obviously, not Bomelia.

[bomelia]

No, I figured it. Just was hoping I was wrong.

They are already looking to reduce numbers here on the Arsenal. They are very much anticipating a serious reduction in defense spending since Obama was elected.

Mike

[VRM]

Well Mike,
I suppose you can look at it this way - the last time unemployment was this high was right around the time Clinton took office.

Steve