new stimulus package

[Dan40]

All the talk today was about the Dems planning a new STIMULUS PACKAGE.

But EMPRESS PELOSI said, No, we have only told the budget people to be ready should this STIMULUS not work." "But it could be quite a while before we know if this STIMULUS is working."

THAT was the reassurance from the "EMPRESS OF IDIOCY" today.

What the surgically surprised bimbo didn't realize is that she ADMITTED that THEY have already decided if their last insane SPENDING plan doesn't work. ANOTHER insane spending plan SURELY will!!!! Alternative plans have already been DISMISSED!

Wacko, crazy, insane, my vocabulary is insufficient to describe these liberals nuts. How can any group of working brain cells believe anything they are telling us and each other?? I'm hamstrung by LOGIC, they seem to have overcome that bond.

And you tell me, WILL THEIR NEW STIMULUS PLAN BE LARGER OR smaller THAN THE PRESENT PLAN?

Dan

[Ron61]

Dan,

In Washington and most of all politics BIGGER is always better especially when it comes to spending money. Just think how much of a pay raise Queen Pelosi and her court will manage to get themselves out of all these stimulus packages. Fienstien and Boxer may ever become the first Americans, Questionable about that, to be knighted.

Ron

[cobra bill]

Most economist think the stimulus package was not large enough, you know your worst nightmares will come true if all this works! and yes I will be here to rub it in.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Most economist think the stimulus package was not large enough, you know your worst nightmares will come true if all this works! and yes I will be here to rub it in.

Most economist think the stimulus package
- do you have a reference relating to the 'most' part?

Some time down the road, America will naturally recovery from this mess - the problem with the package is that spending so much money will end up causing any recovery to be less robust, given that the money spent will need to be paid back, through taxes.

Now, what about this don't you understand?

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

Most economist think the stimulus package
- do you have a reference relating to the 'most' part?

Some time down the road, America will naturally recovery from this mess - the problem with the package is that spending so much money will end up causing any recovery to be less robust, given that the money spent will need to be paid back, through taxes.

Now, what about this don't you understand?

Well maybe it depends on the news sources we use, if all you watch and listen to is the republican Pravda, i.e. foux news, then there may be a difference in what economist are saying.
and yes it will need to be paid for by taxes, Jefferson vehemently fought for a 90% tax rate on the richest people, to avoid aristocracies and people having so much power that they could literally change the course of the country, I would argue they have achieved that objective.
I will admit 90% is too high, but 70% or pre- Reagan tax cuts would work to pay back what they have stolen from us, sure you can blame this on failed mortgages, but that was a drop in the bucket, it was 31% returns on high risk investments using our money, i.e. 401k and other retirement investments to finance their risky behavior.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Well maybe it depends on the news sources we use, if all you watch and listen to is the republican Pravda, i.e. foux news, then there may be a difference in what economist are saying.
and yes it will need to be paid for by taxes, Jefferson vehemently fought for a 90% tax rate on the richest people, to avoid aristocracies and people having so much power that they could literally change the course of the country, I would argue they have achieved that objective.
I will admit 90% is too high, but 70% or pre- Reagan tax cuts would work to pay back what they have stolen from us, sure you can blame this on failed mortgages, but that was a drop in the bucket, it was 31% returns on high risk investments using our money, i.e. 401k and other retirement investments to finance their risky behavior.

How about MSNBC? Are they a Republican Pravda, or are they a Democrat lying Whore? Even you HAVE to say they are at the very least, NOT ANTI Administration. I'd say they are pro Obama to the point that truth will not effect their conclusions if that truth is 'inconvenient!"

You can find on the Msnbc site that the National Debt is now at $10,900,000,000,000.00 AND CLIMBING.

That should tell you all there is to know about how the Government runs a business. ($10.9 TRILLION) in the hole, is the long term results of their financial "wisdom".

Is there a business that is $10.9 Tril. in the red that you would buy into?
We both know that answer is no!

But the US Gov't. "business" is always grossly understated. The $10,900,000,000,000.00 is only the AMOUNT PAST DUE. And does not include INTEREST.
NOR does it include, and this is the worst, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, estimated to be at LEAST, over another $12. Trillion. So the Gov't 'business' is actually over $23 trillion 'out of trust' as a business entity. This is the kind of outfit you look to for "BUSINESS ANSWERS?"

Dan

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Most economist think the stimulus package was not large enough, you know your worst nightmares will come true if all this works! and yes I will be here to rub it in.

A word,


HISTORY

Says the possibilities of you being correct are zero.

Dan

[cobra bill]

Oh you are right, MSNBC is pro Obama without a doubt, and no its not ware I get my news, but that said I have watched both and I would say that what comes out of foux news is far more deceptive if not flat out lies and made up crap! That the two don't even compare.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Oh you are right, MSNBC is pro Obama without a doubt, and no its not ware I get my news, but that said I have watched both and I would say that what comes out of foux news is far more deceptive if not flat out lies and made up crap! That the two don't even compare.

Typical liberal misdirection. Ignore the facts presented and focus on their origin. I used the MSNBC example so you couldn't argue the source, and of course that was the only part you could argue.

Liberals live in the land of make-believe. Can't blame them, reality is a tough Mutha!

Dan

[cobra de capell]

Well maybe it depends on the news sources we use

Well, the gang here knows not to use you as a reporter of news - you are a serial embellish.

Also, please point to one lie that came from Fox news or even a deception or even something made up. News, not opinion.

Looking through your posts, I fear for the future of America.

[cobra bill]

I know you won't take my word for it or even give it a reasonable chance, so check this sight out
http://http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/media-deception.html[/url]http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/media-deception.html

Today's establishment media practice very little journalism and they devote minimal resources to reporting actual news. Instead they have become a mechanism to create and maintain public perception. They spend most of their resources to create a false reality for the public while they distract you from the most important issues facing our world.

For all practical purposes you can safely say that the reality portrayed by the establishment media bares little resemblance to the actual world in which we live. This is not theory, this is obvious and it becomes clear to anyone who cares to pay attention. An easy way to think of this is that the people in the establishment media are holding up an orange for you to look at while they tell you that it is an apple. TvNewsLIES.org simply taps you on the shoulder and points out the fact that you are indeed looking at an orange. We don't simply "claim" that you are being lied to, we show you the lies as they are being told.

You don't have to believe us, you just have to believe your own common sense. We try to point out the fact that this deception is taking place and we show you virtually every detail of the deception process. Once you see it happening you will be better able to evaluate information and you will be able to spot deception for yourself. In other words you will be less likely to be fooled...by anyone!

Lies come in many forms. Partial truths, selective facts, out of context quotes and information, partial historical perspective and out right misrepresentation of facts. It is easy to manipulate the public. If you become aware of the methods of deception you are better prepared to sift through the propaganda for the few facts that are actually made available by our broadcast our news media. Learn their tricks, stay on your toes and become a better informed (responsible) citizen.

[cobra bill]

And here is one more, I can keep going, just say uncle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rqdtZlec0s

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

And here is one more, I can keep going, just say uncle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rqdtZlec0s

Wha??? Rude interviews posted on youtube means something? To whom? ANYBODY can post whatever they wish there. Your "proof" would be inadmissible an any court.

The media, whatever side they are on, is interested in selling their billable time, or copies. MONEY, for them, IS their interest. NEWS, Information, journalism, are not part of their concern, just money. So off the media BS.

And this thread is NOT about left or right media being correct. It is not about the media at all. YOU trump up some media nonsense to avoid the question asked much earlier. The STIMULUS PLANS, A NOW looking like more than one. You cite some "economists" saying the plan wasn't large enough. Lets not wander off on that issue. The right could and have come up with "economists" saying the plan won't work. EVEN up on them, let it go.

History has proved over and over that Government involvement IN business DOES NOT WORK.
The Gov't is going to FIX the financial industry and the economy while the Government's OWN finances are thousands, yes thousands of times worse than ALL the business finances put together.
More liberal utopian dreamland thinking.
Not that I blame you liberals for your wistful thinking. The world you all dream of seems like a heaven on Earth.
No one goes hungry,
No one is poor,
Everyone owns their own house,
Everyone has a college education,
Everyone has good health coverage,
No one is jobless,
EVERYBODY IS HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!,

BEAUTIFUL THINKING!

I wonder why every society in all of history that has tried the liberal utopia has disintergrated.
Its just not fair!

Dan