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DEAR Mr. Liddy,

It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from A.I.G. Financial Products. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:

I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.

After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company — during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 — we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn. My intent is to keep none of the money myself.

I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.

You and I have never met or spoken to each other, so I’d like to tell you about myself. I was raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills. My hard work earned me acceptance to M.I.T., and the institute’s generous financial aid enabled me to attend. I had fulfilled my American dream.

I started at this company in 1998 as an equity trader, became the head of equity and commodity trading and, a couple of years before A.I.G.’s meltdown last September, was named the head of business development for commodities. Over this period the equity and commodity units were consistently profitable — in most years generating net profits of well over $100 million. Most recently, during the dismantling of A.I.G.-F.P., I was an integral player in the pending sale of its well-regarded commodity index business to UBS. As you know, business unit sales like this are crucial to A.I.G.’s effort to repay the American taxpayer.

The profitability of the businesses with which I was associated clearly supported my compensation. I never received any pay resulting from the credit default swaps that are now losing so much money. I did, however, like many others here, lose a significant portion of my life savings in the form of deferred compensation invested in the capital of A.I.G.-F.P. because of those losses. In this way I have personally suffered from this controversial activity — directly as well as indirectly with the rest of the taxpayers.

I have the utmost respect for the civic duty that you are now performing at A.I.G. You are as blameless for these credit default swap losses as I am. You answered your country’s call and you are taking a tremendous beating for it.

But you also are aware that most of the employees of your financial products unit had nothing to do with the large losses. And I am disappointed and frustrated over your lack of support for us. I and many others in the unit feel betrayed that you failed to stand up for us in the face of untrue and unfair accusations from certain members of Congress last Wednesday and from the press over our retention payments, and that you didn’t defend us against the baseless and reckless comments made by the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut........................

My guess is that in October, when you learned of these retention contracts, you realized that the employees of the financial products unit needed some incentive to stay and that the contracts, being both ethical and useful, should be left to stand. That’s probably why A.I.G. management assured us on three occasions during that month that the company would “live up to its commitment” to honor the contract guarantees.

That may be why you decided to accelerate by three months more than a quarter of the amounts due under the contracts. That action signified to us your support, and was hardly something that one would do if he truly found the contracts “distasteful.”

That may also be why you authorized the balance of the payments on March 13.

At no time during the past six months that you have been leading A.I.G. did you ask us to revise, renegotiate or break these contracts — until several hours before your appearance last week before Congress.
I think your initial decision to honor the contracts was both ethical and financially astute, but it seems to have been politically unwise. It’s now apparent that you either misunderstood the agreements that you had made — tacit or otherwise — with the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, various members of Congress and Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York, or were not strong enough to withstand the shifting political winds.

You’ve now asked the current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. to repay these earnings. As you can imagine, there has been a tremendous amount of serious thought and heated discussion about how we should respond to this breach of trust.

As most of us have done nothing wrong, guilt is not a motivation to surrender our earnings. We have worked 12 long months under these contracts and now deserve to be paid as promised. None of us should be cheated of our payments any more than a plumber should be cheated after he has fixed the pipes but a careless electrician causes a fire that burns down the house.
Many of the employees have, in the past six months, turned down job offers from more stable employers, based on A.I.G.’s assurances that the contracts would be honored. They are now angry about having been misled by A.I.G.’s promises and are not inclined to return the money as a favor to you.

The only real motivation that anyone at A.I.G.-F.P. now has is fear. Mr. Cuomo has threatened to “name and shame,” and his counterpart in Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, has made similar threats — even though attorneys general are supposed to stand for due process, to conduct trials in courts and not the press.

So what am I to do? There’s no easy answer. I know that because of hard work I have benefited more than most during the economic boom and have saved enough that my family is unlikely to suffer devastating losses during the current bust. Some might argue that members of my profession have been overpaid, and I wouldn’t disagree.

That is why I have decided to donate 100 percent of the effective after-tax proceeds of my retention payment directly to organizations that are helping people who are suffering from the global downturn. This is not a tax-deduction gimmick; I simply believe that I at least deserve to dictate how my earnings are spent, and do not want to see them disappear back into the obscurity of A.I.G.’s or the federal government’s budget. Our earnings have caused such a distraction for so many from the more pressing issues our country faces, and I would like to see my share of it benefit those truly in need.

On March 16 I received a payment from A.I.G. amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes. In light of the uncertainty over the ultimate taxation and legal status of this payment, the actual amount I donate may be less — in fact, it may end up being far less if the recent House bill raising the tax on the retention payments to 90 percent stands. Once all the money is donated, you will immediately receive a list of all recipients.

This choice is right for me. I wish others at A.I.G.-F.P. luck finding peace with their difficult decision, and only hope their judgment is not clouded by fear.

Mr. Liddy, I wish you success in your commitment to return the money extended by the American government, and luck with the continued unwinding of the company’s diverse businesses — especially those remaining credit default swaps. I’ll continue over the short term to help make sure no balls are dropped, but after what’s happened this past week I can’t remain much longer — there is too much bad blood. I’m not sure how you will greet my resignation, but at least Attorney General Blumenthal should be relieved that I’ll leave under my own power and will not need to be “shoved out the door.”

Sincerely,

Jake DeSantis

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On the other hand, someone must have done something wrong, after this is an insurance company and insurance companies are suppose to have checks and balances in place to insure that funds are available to pay claims or they should not be underwriting the business.

I'll bet that there are a lot of villains working for AIG at very high levels with very big bonuses. With that said, I don't believe that the bonuses should be taken back, period - just move forward. The fact that they should be paid - is the law, written into the law by Dodd and others - the deal was made, it's a done deal - now, go after whomever made the deal on the government side.
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Living here in ct its so hard to listen to the politcal b/s regarding those bonus's. I certainlty don't agree with them, BUt as our crooked politicians keep blasting them- they forget that these people at AIG etc and other places PAY HUGH STATE INCOME tax on those wages that the state will not see the revenue. CT is gettting clobbered by all the Wall St. And Banking people layed off who worked in NYC and live in ct.
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I have to agree with Jake. A deal is a deal.

A man should be able to trust a promise on a handshake ...and definately on a clearly written agreement.

There is no doubt that wage promises were made that were overly optimistic in their worth. But the time to coerce a shorter check is another day and another negotiation.

This can be said for any employee. Blue collar or white-collar. Union or suit.

There is much that can be said about meeting ones job as expected ...only to be surprised. A man might forget exactly how much a job paid him down the road. But he never forgets exactly how the job made him feel. Or who.

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I agree a contract is a contract, and the same should apply to the unions, it was a negotiated agreement that was put into a labor contract, let them stand.
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I agree a contract is a contract, and the same should apply to the unions, it was a negotiated agreement that was put into a labor contract, let them stand.
This has nothing to do with union contracts - those contracts can be re-negotiated based on current and projected events, for example - if paying the contracted wages in the future will bankrupt the company.

This event relates to a past promise (contract), not a future promise or contract. Geez, try thinking before posting liberal garbage.

The bottomline is this, the federal government knowingly and deliberately whiped up anger and hate directed at a specific yet easily expanded group, based on the actions sanctioned by the very same government. The official state media dutifully follows along, ratcheting up the hate-filled, hysterical class warfare. The ignorant masses grab their pitchforks and torches. The targets are threatened with bodily harm and death. Thugs show up at their houses to intimidate them. The legislature passes punitive legislation to persecute individuals of the target group. The justice department threatens to release names and addresses, so the thugs can plan their days. Public officials blame the victims of this hate fest.

Sounds like the beginning of Kristallnacht to me. All we need are some shattered windows.

These people are disgusting and we all are being stupid for not doing more to prevent the take over of America.
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Do you wish to imply there is a conspiracy at hand?

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Do you wish to imply there is a conspiracy at hand?

I do. I'm not one to believe in conspiracies but Obama and his troops are coming up with too much to fast to not be aligned to forces that we know little about - the puppet masters out there, for example Soros.

Spending our way out of a recession, budgeting the takeover of medical insurance, cap and trade, asking for the power to take over non-financial institution entities - the list is long and BO has not been in office for 100 days yet.

America will end up with horrendous debt and hyperinflation, huge increases in taxes at all levels; thus enabling Obama and his troops to implement more takeovers of business entities, nationalizing perhaps even the oil industry.

He has got to be stopped.

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His proposals will create jobs....jobs....jobs..................in the government that is.
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This has nothing to do with union contracts - those contracts can be re-negotiated based on current and projected events, for example - if paying the contracted wages in the future will bankrupt the company....
A variety of assinine contracts have been the demise of many companies. Somebody asleep at the tiller or deranged enough to gamble everything that the contract can be busted if need be. Some contracts should never be signed.

I think you might come across as a bit hard on cobra bill this time, CDC.

Try re-reading the above as:
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This has nothing to do with salary contracts - those contracts can be re-negotiated based on current and projected events, for example - if paying the contracted bonuses in the future will bankrupt the company....
Or maybe there really is a divine difference between honoring agreements made to the middleclass as opposed to the upper class.
As observed in:
Leona Helmsley, the cutthroat hotel magnate whose title as the “queen of mean” was sealed during a tax evasion case in which she was quoted as snarling “only little people pay taxes,”

It is true that labor contracts are often re-negotiated every three years while middle management (you?) may reach a compensation agreement one time up front, closer to a yearly basis or even less. Both can either walk out the door or be replaced anytime unless their contract reads otherwise. I can see your point, if that is more along the lines of what you meant, since labor normally holds to extended time periods.

I still say, a deal is a deal, high or low on the totem pole. Nobody should have to work under the guise of false compensation pretenses.

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It is a classic Cloward-Piven Strategy: Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

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Wes - it's literally impossible to be to hard on Cobra(space/no Cobra)Bill - he's a bleeding heart liberal and basically they all have to be put down - hard. By the way, it's your manby-bamby, get the words right - be kind, be gentle attitude that got us into this mess - you sound like McCain today and we all know - he lost, we lost. You need to get mad and get with the program - it starts with hard ball.

I also believe that "a deal is a deal", especially in this case, but once a tipping point has been reached, contracts either are re-negotiated or, in the case of the working man, no one ends up with a job at all.
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It is a classic Cloward-Piven Strategy: Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

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Oh so true - take a crisis (severe recession), orchestrate the crisis in a way that allows for policy changes to benefit a speciific agenda - socialism.

Also, provide all the little people with handouts to keep them in line, and perhaps some kool-aid....

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