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Originally Posted by VRM
Razor,
Morals change.
I am curious, though. What exactly is being forced on you? Nobody is making you marry a guy. I'm very curious about this one (Mike and others - feel free to jump in as well). How exactly does gay marriage affect you personally? I have two gay friends who will be tying the knot in a couple of months - how does that negatively affect you?
Steve
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Steve, good question,
First: You introduced the moral issue saying that it was being forced by right wingers, I was trying to make the point that the change is happening from the left not the right. Traditional marriage has been accepted by society, hundreds of years in this country, and thousands of years by the rest of the world. Now their are those who want to redefine the basic building block of our society, the family,It is more than just a convenience thing for insurance purposes, and the like, it is taking our society in a totally different direction, that many of us believe is dangerous, in the fact that your wanting to change the foundation of our society. Their are certainly other laws that can be changed to give benefits, other than marriage laws.
Second:Making this change, of same sex marriage is going from structure, and order to nothing, that is no structure and order. We have accepted for quite some time that government was involved in the acquiring of marriage license. Now this would be totally taken away.
Their are groups that believe that brothers and sisters should be able to get married, (hold the southern jokes please), why not, what is the authority saying two men or women but may but others may not. A question like this is usually dismissed by the left, as nonsense, by rarely ever answered.
Third: This is a moral question, but as many moral questions it effects society. Just as the guy who thinks he can go around getting different women pregnant, leaving a trail of fatherless children,and saying his sexual behavior is his own business and not anyone else's. That type man is weakening the foundation, and we see the result in our headlines every day, with crime and poverty, this is a moral issue should we stay silent.
Fourth: You say morals change, I say they do not. That is the traditional Judeo-Christian view. Styles, music and taste may change, but behavioral morals do not. The great thing about our country is that we don't kill men for being homosexual, like Iran does, nor beat a women for talking to a man as they do in Afghanistan. We allow these differences, we might not like them, but their is more freedom here then is in much of the world. The Christian ethic wants to influence government the Muslim ethic wants to dominate.The Christian ethic wants to influence morality for a healthy society, not legislate theology. This is why the 10 commandments are prominently shown in the U.S. Supreme Court, held in the hand of Moses, its the influence of behavior that the commandments represent that is the morality we seek to defend.
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