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fsstnotch 06-20-2009 03:17 AM
ACLU starting trouble in Maricopia
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...howing-racial/

FWB 06-20-2009 03:16 PM
the aclu has always been a thorn in america's side. was originally started by the communist party to undermine america. (this is not a political bash but actual history)
politicians and ethnic groups have been used by, and use, the aclu to further their causes.
anything spewed by the aclu would not surprise me in the least.

an article about the aclu's founding

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45959

cavedog57 06-22-2009 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 959878)
the aclu has always been a thorn in america's side. was originally started by the communist party to undermine america. (this is not a political bash but actual history)
politicians and ethnic groups have been used by, and use, the aclu to further their causes.
anything spewed by the aclu would not surprise me in the least.

Sounds subversive -- count me in! (member of the ACLU and NRA)

FWB 06-22-2009 04:57 PM
i don't think the aclu and the nra in the same sentence works, unless you would be comparing opposites

FWB 06-22-2009 04:58 PM
oh, i stand corrected......wow i am impressed

http://www.drudge.com/archive/92896/...un-rights-case

cavedog57 06-23-2009 09:16 AM
I'm a big supporter of both the first and second amendments. Just call me a moderately conservative liberal.

Really liked the fourth too, before it was gutted by the so-called "law and order" crowd.

fsstnotch 06-23-2009 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cavedog57 (Post 960602)
I'm a big supporter of both the first and second amendments. Just call me a moderately conservative liberal.

Really liked the fourth too, before it was gutted by the so-called "law and order" crowd.
I fully support the U.S. Constitution. I just don't believe that someone in our country illegally should be granted those same rights.... If they want those rights, they should gain them RIGHTFULLY, not ILLEGALLY!

FWB 06-23-2009 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsstnotch (Post 960610)
I fully support the U.S. Constitution. I just don't believe that someone in our country illegally should be granted those same rights.... If they want those rights, they should gain them RIGHTFULLY, not ILLEGALLY!
Amen, brother....

fred

1ntCobra 06-23-2009 11:00 AM
Hmm,

I looked at the link and see that Rev. Al Sharpton is looking to stir up trouble, but I don't recall seeing the ACLU mentioned anywhere. :confused:

FWB 06-23-2009 11:12 AM
which link? the one for aclu and nra or the one for aclu's original funding

FWB 06-23-2009 11:21 AM
damn i see what you mean, when fsstnotch posted the article it stated the aclu was working with sharpton. i read it. thats what prompted me to write about the aclu.
now its gone. sneaky blokes aren't they.

cavedog57 06-23-2009 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsstnotch (Post 960610)
I fully support the U.S. Constitution. I just don't believe that someone in our country illegally should be granted those same rights.... If they want those rights, they should gain them RIGHTFULLY, not ILLEGALLY!
Really, a supporter? How do you tell, on the street, a citizen from an illegal alien? And here I was thinking the Constitution was simply a basic assertion of human rights and our relationship to society and its means of governance. Why not just set up "citizenship checkpoints" at state borders (why not county borders?) and give everyone a quick frisk? Just think of all the benefits!

Hmmm, rights for some and none for others -- sounds like a firm basis for exploitation. Which may be why corporations knowingly hire illegal aliens; low wages, no benefits and no fuss from their threat labor (read that as no organizing). And lower wages for citizens too! It's a win-win!

Now, just how should "they" go about gaining "our" rights, "rightfully"?

fsstnotch 06-23-2009 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 960639)
which link? the one for aclu and nra or the one for aclu's original funding

I thnk he meant the original link. I guess I just always associate sharpton to teh ACLU... especially when he says things like "people of a certain skin color are treated different than other people."

FWB 06-23-2009 11:27 AM
no there was a reference to the aclu in the article. it was clickable thats where i got the aclu info

fsstnotch 06-23-2009 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cavedog57 (Post 960644)
Really, a supporter? How do you tell, on the street, a citizen from an illegal alien? And here I was thinking the Constitution was simply a basic assertion of human rights and our relationship to society and its means of governance. Why not just set up "citizenship checkpoints" at state borders (why not county borders?) and give everyone a quick frisk? Just think of all the benefits!

Hmmm, rights for some and none for others -- sounds like a firm basis for exploitation. Which may be why corporations knowingly hire illegal aliens; low wages, no benefits and no fuss from their threat labor (read that as no organizing). And lower wages for citizens too! It's a win-win!

Now, just how should "they" go about gaining "our" rights, "rightfully"?
Are you being serious? Because if you are.... you are far more liberal than you think!!! i suppose you believe that illegals should be granted social security, free healthcare, food stamps, housing, etc etc etc... WOW!!!:LOL:

1ntCobra 06-23-2009 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 960639)
which link? the one for aclu and nra or the one for aclu's original funding
Um, the link in the first post in this thread. You know the one with ACLU in subject line. I was trying to see the connection to the ACLU when the thread was started.

The ACLU, gay marriage, birth control, communism, gun rights, feminists and various other things seemed to be added on afterwards.

Based on the original posting in this thread, shouldn't the subject have been "Reverend Al Sharpton starting trouble in Maricopia"?

Is Sharpton employed by the ACLU?

FWB 06-23-2009 11:33 AM
cavedog, really? you have a problem with somebody ticked off that illegals get the same rights as a citizen?

cavedog57 06-23-2009 11:41 AM
They pay income taxes thanks to payroll tax withholding -- same as you and I.

fsstnotch 06-23-2009 11:42 AM
Cavedog.... how do they gain rights RIGHTFULLY? Well it sure isn't crossing the border via someones backyard!!!!

You can do several things to gain citizenship! you can join the military, in doing so, they will even pay for the process!!! You can marry, and go through the processes, you can obtain work visa's, and so on!!!

I've got no problem fighting for the rights of a US citizen. Have a tough time fighting for the rights of an illegal taking the job of a US citizen!

1ntCobra 06-23-2009 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cavedog57 (Post 960644)

...deleted some stuff...

Now, just how should "they" go about gaining "our" rights, "rightfully"?
My grandfather was an illegal alien from Ireland. He became a legal US citizen by joining the Army in WWI.

Sounds like an option to me. Join the military or go back to where you came from.


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