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06-23-2009, 10:12 AM
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In Cold Blood: What Truman Capote did not want you to know
In Cold Blood: What Truman Capote did not want you to know
http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com...apote-did.html
Not that I really care or anyone here cares, but I've wondered over the years why the puns killed the entire Clutter family. The movie, although well done and redone at least once, doesn't provide the answer - I didn't read the book, but from this account it probably didn't provide the answer although it was suppose to be a true crime novel.
Anyway, it's all about a homo relationship from the get go - starting in prison. So sad even now.
The two criminals were homosexual lovers and the murder of the innocent evangelical family took place because one of the criminals wanted to rape the bound 16-year-old Nancy Clutter. The homosexual partner, jealous that he was exchanged for a beautiful blond girl, quarrels with his lover. That was an important fact that the investigative journalism of Capote completely omitted.
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06-23-2009, 01:37 PM
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I suppose the fact that Capote was gay himself might have been part of it. Additionally, this was a time when homosexuals were not looked upon favorably.
Had he mentioned it, maybe he thought it would shine a light on his own lifestyle and expose his sexual preference.
He never wrote a complete literary work after "In Cold Blood".
Just a theory.

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06-24-2009, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by trularin
I suppose the fact that Capote was gay himself might have been part of it. Additionally, this was a time when homosexuals were not looked upon favorably.
Had he mentioned it, maybe he thought it would shine a light on his own lifestyle and expose his sexual preference.
He never wrote a complete literary work after "In Cold Blood".
Just a theory.

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Excuse me....as far as I'm concerned, they'll never be looked upon favorably by me.
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06-24-2009, 08:02 AM
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the point is that he just wasn't honest about why the family was killed and what brought those two puns together in the first place. To leave that huge part out is not telling the full story as the book was suppose to do. In fact, he probably researched the book because it was a gay thing.
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06-24-2009, 11:17 AM
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It is a documented fact that he spent several hours interviewing both of the men. I read a story about his research into the novel and the accounts from the correctional staff collaborated his account.
The story I read was a bit different from the movie.
One that might follow your line of thinking was his attempts to get a stay of execution. He was reported to have said when ask that, "He thought he understood them."
There's a scarry thought.
I am a huge fan of Harper Lee and I found it interesting that they both provided two of the greatest literary works of the twentieth century.
Oh well.

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06-24-2009, 11:33 AM
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Well, nothing was left out - nothing major (in the movie) - in To Kill a Mockingbird.
In Cold Blood, I don't recall even a hint of a homo relationship - the killing of the family really wasn't explained other than they were mad because no money was found, etc.
In fact, I recall a scene after the killings - I believe they went to Mexico and were with hookers for a short time before being arrested. Now, did that happen? It really makes no sense based on this new information.
Capote was great with words and told a good story, but it was also suppose to be the real story - turns out the main motivation for the killings was left out.
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06-24-2009, 12:55 PM
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I think I watched a movie based on "IN COLD BLOOD". The killings in the movie made sense from a robbery standpoint in that the two ex-cons stayed at the farmhouse taking what they wanted and marking time. The movie implied that one of them couldn't quite accept the rape of the little girl, perhaps believing that it was an unnecessary fate worse than death. So, for that reason, and one would assume to buy get-away time, he made the decision to kill the family.
The idea that these guys were homos seems contrived, perhaps for J. J. Maloney to build a story, and it is almost certain that the pedophile one interested in the girl was not gay or he would have been more interested in the boy. Finally, then, it seems like Julio Severo seized upon this for his own blog agenda where he comes across as a bit homophobic.
It would not be surprising that these two cons carried on in prison since that is a common deviation when normal hetero social contact is unavailable. Heterosexual creatures, including humans, are sometimes interested in bisexuality under some accomodating social environs ...like the Spartan society, or even women dancing with one another in our society. But in the end, as you say, female hookers fit the bill better than bisexual behavior.
Capote did seem a bit fruity. I don't like to see feminine characteristics in males. It's just not right. I hate to admit it, but I guess I'm a bit homophobic myself.
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06-24-2009, 03:13 PM
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The movie implied that one of them couldn't quite accept the rape of the little girl
Apparently, but not shown or implied - the interest in the 'girl' angered one con in that he was being thrown over for a 'girl.' That's why the family was killed as outlined within the blog. Just hanging around simply doesn't come up with sufficient motive to kill everyone. Capote was fluity. For some reason, he elected not to tell the story with the fruity element attached even with it being huge as to why the family was killed.
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