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Fordzilla 09-28-2009 01:21 PM

Flag Burners Beware!!
 
http://www.military.com/news/article...s.html?wh=news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emHVRb8xcGc

map 09-28-2009 04:17 PM

They should have caned him!

DAVID GAGNARD 09-28-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by map (Post 987759)
They should have caned him!

with barbed wire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David

VRM 09-29-2009 09:16 AM

I've always liked the idea of it being legal to desecrate the flag, but knowing that it is something you should not do.
I think both parties have handled this very well.

Steve

cobra de capell 09-29-2009 11:08 AM

Keep plucking that chicken, VRM.

VRM 09-29-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cobra de capell (Post 988060)
Keep plucking that chicken, VRM.

Are you trying to make a point or just another personal attack?:rolleyes:

Jamo 09-29-2009 11:29 AM

It's against the law to deface or mutilate the US dollar, but it's ok to burn the flag of our nation.

Jamo 09-29-2009 11:29 AM

If it's a personal attack...stop.

VRM 09-29-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 988074)
It's against the law to deface or mutilate the US dollar, but it's ok to burn the flag of our nation.

Yep.

I'm in favour of having the freedom to make the right choice.

Jamo 09-29-2009 11:40 AM

So, should it be ok to spray paint "Washington Sucks!" on his monument...just so you can choose not to?

VRM 09-29-2009 11:57 AM

No - the Washington Monument is not my own property.

Jamo 09-29-2009 12:07 PM

Cutting some fine hairs there, boy.

Let's go back to the dollar bill you own...should you be able to walk out on Wall Street and burn a pile of dollar bills?

computerworks 09-29-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 988097)
..should you be able to walk out on Wall Street and burn a pile of dollar bills?

not a fair question, cuz I think we all have done that recently.

:cool:

Excaliber 09-29-2009 12:18 PM

I can't believe my luck. I had transferred all my 401K monies to an annuity in time to avoid the collapse. After working the numbers I was blown away how much I could have lost. No genius here, just got lucky with the timing.

Fordzilla 09-29-2009 01:00 PM

I don't like the idea of it being legal to desecrate the US Flag in any way. I don't think it's a right. I think it's a disgrace & disrespect to every person who has sacrificed &/or gave their life for it. It should be against the law to burn or desecrate the US Flag, period. Anyone who thinks it's OK has never served, never lost friends defending it, or is whacked. That's not a personal attack against anyone, that's my opinion.
Yes, I do think the situation was handled well by all parties involved. As a Past Legion Commander I salute Commander Normile.

VRM 09-29-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 988097)
Cutting some fine hairs there, boy.

Let's go back to the dollar bill you own...should you be able to walk out on Wall Street and burn a pile of dollar bills?

Jamo,
No fine hairs there at all - you simply picked a poor example.

I like CWs response, but my answer is yes. They are mine, I should be allowed to do what I want with them. However, should I deface one and try to spend it then the person I am giving it to should have the right to refuse it.

There is nothing about the United States that I consider 100% sacred, and the Founding Fathers bear this out by including the right to bear arms in our Constitution and the statement about it being our right and duty to throw off government should it not meet our needs.

Our flag, currency, Uncle Sam, and Constitution represent our government more than any other particular item.

I consider the burning/desecration of flags or currency to be like the Boston Tea Party, except that you are using your own private property as the form of protest. We hardly ever see the Constitution being burned in effigy - I think this is perhaps because the people doing the burning/defacing do not have a problem with what our government should be, but rather what it currently is.

Steve

Excaliber 09-29-2009 01:56 PM

Actually I can't wrap my head around the idea that it's OK to burn a flag as a statement of protest or just because you "feel" like it. ...never did get that.

Jamo 09-29-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VRM (Post 988134)
Jamo,
No fine hairs there at all - you simply picked a poor example.

I like CWs response, but my answer is yes. They are mine, I should be allowed to do what I want with them. However, should I deface one and try to spend it then the person I am giving it to should have the right to refuse it.

There is nothing about the United States that I consider 100% sacred, and the Founding Fathers bear this out by including the right to bear arms in our Constitution and the statement about it being our right and duty to throw off government should it not meet our needs.

Our flag, currency, Uncle Sam, and Constitution represent our government more than any other particular item.

I consider the burning/desecration of flags or currency to be like the Boston Tea Party, except that you are using your own private property as the form of protest. We hardly ever see the Constitution being burned in effigy - I think this is perhaps because the people doing the burning/defacing do not have a problem with what our government should be, but rather what it currently is.

Steve

Steve...my example was just fine for folks that stay on point. I'm sure if you bought your own crucifix or bible or koran...you'd feel pretty damn good about yourself for burning them as well.

Dumping some merchant's tea over the side is a bit different than burning the Union Jack.

Nevermind...some folks just don't get it.

Excaliber 09-29-2009 02:38 PM

What IS the logic or reasoning behind the law that does allow someone to burn the US flag in protest?

Ronbo 09-29-2009 02:56 PM

Burning the flag should be legal...

Beating the daylights out of someone burning the flag should be illegal - the fine? One dollar (preferably a defaced one).

Consider the matter solved.;)


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