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ACademic 03-20-2013 03:41 PM
Original shifter bezel/ring with FOMOCO stamping
 
I believe it was mickmate that posted long ago a list of original parts that made their way onto early cars. One of those parts was the chrome shifter bezel/ring from an early 1960's Ford Galaxie or Fairlane. The supposed unique detail on this part was that the FOMOCO logo was also stamped into it and was visible.

Can any of the original owners on this forum post a photograph from their current CSX car that shows this detail? And if you have a spare lying around, PM me and let's have a more serious chat. :)

-Steve

CompClassics 03-20-2013 05:15 PM
I have yet to see an original shifter bezel that has the FoMoCo stamp on it in a visible spot when mounted:
1) it wouldn't be cosmetically unacceptable
2) during the chroming process it would be hard to get a part that was uniform in appearance
3) I do know a person that used to stamp his own reproduction bezels, why I have no idea

mickmate 03-20-2013 07:56 PM
Don't believe that MM guy he don't know nuttin ;-) I think he changed his mind on the stamp anyway.

rsk289 03-21-2013 02:06 AM
Years ago I had a Sunbeam Tiger - I'm sure the shifter bezel on that had the 'fomoco' stamping under the chrome, but memory may be playing tricks...

ACademic 03-21-2013 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1236388)
Don't believe that MM guy he don't know nuttin ;-) I think he changed his mind on the stamp anyway.
:eek::eek::eek:

Are you trying to tell me that I have two people performing national parts searches for an item that does not exist?!? :LOL:

ACademic 03-21-2013 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rsk289 (Post 1236430)
Years ago I had a Sunbeam Tiger - I'm sure the shifter bezel on that had the 'fomoco' stamping under the chrome, but memory may be playing tricks...
Suddenly I trust your memory more than mickmate's. ;):LOL:

Do you have any photos to share, or know of another Sunbeam owner that might be able to help out with that? I'm not going to give up on this one until I hear something more definitive.

rsk289 03-21-2013 07:25 AM
Sorry, no photos, just distant memories...

ACademic 03-21-2013 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rsk289 (Post 1236463)
Sorry, no photos, just distant memories...
I've since gathered additional intel on this. It's quite possible that either a US or UK pre-production/prototype version of this bezel was produced in very limited quantities and that is what some have referenced in old photos or in memory. I'd still love to see at least a photograph of one just to get a feel for the FoMoCo stamping's size/scale and location on the actual part.

-Steve

KevinW 03-21-2013 12:32 PM
I am greatly releived that this latest piece of pedantry means I DONT now have to go and buy a new shifter ring!:LOL::LOL::LOL:

mickmate 03-21-2013 12:47 PM
It was supposedly seen on a one off English car. Nothing since.

ACademic 03-21-2013 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1236508)
It was supposedly seen on a one off English car. Nothing since.
Translation: We have better odds of sighting the Loch Ness monster. :LOL:

computerworks 03-21-2013 02:11 PM
Rest easy... no FoMoCo required.

I think that "urban legend" sourced from a long ago webpage where someone itemized the parts on Cobras, with more than a few errors.

ACademic 03-22-2013 05:54 AM
Another hunt spoiled by reality. Thanks for clarifying, everyone.

Now I need to call a few nice people and apologize to them for chasing a ghost. :D

KevinW 03-22-2013 07:34 AM
OK, I got another one......even more on the autistic spectrum.............

Trico washer bottle geeks, listen up.......

So: on original cars (yeah, I know, Im talking street cars, not S/Cs), were the washer jets that were mounted in front of the screen actually Trico items (and so had Trico written on the chrome), or were more communal every day items used?

rsk289 03-22-2013 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 1236609)
OK, I got another one......even more on the autistic spectrum.............

Trico washer bottle geeks, listen up.......

So: on original cars (yeah, I know, Im talking street cars, not S/Cs), were the washer jets that were mounted in front of the screen actually Trico items (and so had Trico written on the chrome), or were more communal every day items used?
If you're talking 289s, the washer jets were a very unusual and rare type. They consisted of a pressed stainless steel plinth, attached with two slotted screws through a thin rubber gasket and a flat stainless baseplate. Between the two was sandwiched a stainless steel washer jet nozzle balljoint, with a knurled head. This has the take-up spout sticking down into the car, through the baseplate. The balljoint could be adjusted to aim the jet. These are seriously hard to find now, and would be a great subject for remanufacture. I do know of another make of car to which they could be sold also!
I have no idea who made them. I don't think it was Trico, more likely a low-volume run by Smiths.

razerwire 03-22-2013 09:28 AM
Looked in Motorsports International parts book on page 185./ part # = 15-121. Description = oem chrome plated shift boot trim ring ( with fomoco logo) / part # 15-023 described as oem chrome plated shift boot trim ring, as original / part# 15-024 described as replacement shift boot trim ring ( "solid steel" chrome plated ) ???? Prices effective 02/01/94 part# 15-121 = 24.50 / part# 15-023 = 39.95 / part# 15-024 = 65.00

Dan Case 03-22-2013 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289 (Post 1236610)
If you're talking 289s, the washer jets were a very unusual and rare type. They consisted of a pressed stainless steel plinth, attached with two slotted screws through a thin rubber gasket and a flat stainless baseplate. Between the two was sandwiched a stainless steel washer jet nozzle balljoint, with a knurled head. This has the take-up spout sticking down into the car, through the baseplate. The balljoint could be adjusted to aim the jet. These are seriously hard to find now, and would be a great subject for remanufacture. I do know of another make of car to which they could be sold also!
I have no idea who made them. I don't think it was Trico, more likely a low-volume run by Smiths.
Cobra screen jet = Lucas

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...pse2ed91df.jpg


There are at least two versions of nozzle but I have found only one on unrestored Cobras.

If purchased in a Lucas "sundries kit" instructions and a little wrench for aiming the spray was included.

KevinW 03-22-2013 03:46 PM
- very useful.
So another item to keep on the ebay alert list!
cheers, Kevin

Dan Case 03-22-2013 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 1236664)
- very useful.
So another item to keep on the ebay alert list!
cheers, Kevin
Find somebody in the EbayŽ UK site tthat has sundry kits for sale and then ask about screen jets. I landed several nos sets that way.

CompClassics 03-22-2013 04:10 PM
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Here's the installed unit....


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