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picah 12-20-2015 08:09 PM

rivet orientation question
 
For the suitcase bump out on the rear cockpit wall of the 427 cars, were the rivets installed from the trunk side or from the cockpit side? I am guessing they were installed from the trunk, but, if so, didn't the blind end of the rivet make a big bulge under the Naugahyde on the rear cockpit wall? Or is the other way with the ugly end of the rivet in the trunk? About to that point and don't want to be drilling them out!!
Thanks much for any info
Best
Ron

LMH 12-20-2015 08:48 PM

This might help. Looks like Nick would have the answers if not.
Larry
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/orig...imensions.html

picah 12-21-2015 08:03 AM

Larry
Thx for the link. Tried to blow up the pic but it's pretty grainy. Does appear that the head of the rivet must be on the cockpit side as it appears the blind end is what shows in the trunk. I guess this makes sense as to where the ugly end winds up. I will wait to see if someone can confirm from an original car
Best
Ron

Cobra Chris 12-25-2015 09:19 AM

I also would like to see some good pictures of both sides of the bump out...Also how the Naugahyde was installed on the S/C cars...

mickmate 12-25-2015 11:47 AM

Heads in the cockpit. You see the heads under the vinyl on SC cars and exposed on comp cars of course. Dr Bob had some neat tricks for trimming them out.

picah 12-26-2015 01:21 PM

Mick
Many thx for the confirmation
Can you point me in the direction of dr bobs neat tricks for finishing the area?
As usual you da man !!
Best
Ron

1985 CCX 12-26-2015 05:11 PM

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Not sure about tricks. They were seen on original cars.

mickmate 12-26-2015 10:33 PM

He did more of a modern hot rod version along the lines of what a lot of you guys like. He did a piece of vinyl over the FIA bump with about a 1" border. The border had the rivet head holes cut out and a surrounding layer over the bulkhead cut right up flush to the borders edge. This effectively made everything level with each other for a top layer to sit very flat over it. I have some pics of it somewhere if my description isn't clear enough Ron. Keep up the good work and great detailing! Since you're in the rivet counters ranks it's 9 rivets top and bottom and two on each end ;-)

Cobra Chris 12-27-2015 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1375926)
He did more of a modern hot rod version along the lines of what a lot of you guys like. He did a piece of vinyl over the FIA bump with about a 1" border. The border had the rivet head holes cut out and a surrounding layer over the bulkhead cut right up flush to the borders edge. This effectively made everything level with each other for a top layer to sit very flat over it. I have some pics of it somewhere if my description isn't clear enough Ron. Keep up the good work and great detailing! Since you're in the rivet counters ranks it's 9 rivets top and bottom and two on each end ;-)

So the rivets are visible? Nick, I would appreciate if you could post those pics if possible...

Thanks!

cobrakiwi 12-27-2015 07:35 AM

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Here is a few pictures, seen the rivets installed both ways,

1985 CCX 12-27-2015 10:11 AM

Great pics Craig!
Remember these were race cars and getting them into use the primary objective.
Raw was it, rivots bare, and symmetry was more asymmetric.

mickmate 12-27-2015 07:01 PM

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ps4lv5mhdn.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...pss2zbaovm.jpg

Cobra Chris 12-28-2015 05:22 AM

Nick and Craig, thanks for shedding some light on that...You both are a huge help as usual...

Chris

picah 12-28-2015 06:38 PM

My thanks as well. Great pics, great info. I think I'm going to try to follow the pics of the red car that shows the rivet heads under the vinyl but without the inch wide overlapping (underlapping??) as in mickmate's pics. This will require some careful cutting/trimming but I have plenty of the vinyl and willing to endure some frustration along the learning curve. I'll keep you all posted on my progress.
It is amazing that a question on rivet orientation brings out so much great conversation. Me thinks that the passion (disease?) runs deep among this crowd. Glad to be part of it !!
Happy new years to all !!
Best
Ron


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