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saltytri 06-04-2006 07:58 PM
I just took my rears off. Now my car looks more like a Real Shelby CSX 4000 Cobra. :MECOOL:

Blas 06-04-2006 08:16 PM
I've seen something that looks like a red ball stuffed in the centers too...

Rick Parker 06-04-2006 08:34 PM
Lets clear this up once and for all! The rear covers were left off because the covers were on the front for a purpose: to prevent dust from getting in the bearings. The rear bearings were not exposed to dust By design, as the fronts were, consequently they (the covers) were not used on the rear. The red "Balls" were actually the dust caps painted red to provide a "Target" for the pit crew to aim for when changing a tire during the heat of the battle, that trick is still used by some of the Cup & Busch teams today. So make a choice, justify it by whatever means you will. They were on the front only for the above reason, no other!
[IMG]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...il_26_1964.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...edium/2160.jpg[/IMG]

computerworks 06-04-2006 09:28 PM
..late to the party. And, all the answers are correct..

..but..

427's were shipped with all 4 dust caps in place. Factory stills and PR material show the 4 wheels the same, all with dust covers.

...and the knock-offs weren't safety wired, either. :p

Rick's correct..the Comp guys may have let them 'fall off' in the rear, because they were cosmetic.

...so, pick your look...either is correct.

computerworks 06-04-2006 09:33 PM
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Taken in 1966

Byots 06-04-2006 10:13 PM
center caps
 
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*13* 06-04-2006 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Parker
Lets clear this up once and for all! The rear covers were left off because the covers were on the front for a purpose: to prevent dust from getting in the bearings. The rear bearings were not exposed to dust By design, as the fronts were, consequently they (the covers) were not used on the rear. The red "Balls" were actually the dust caps painted red to provide a "Target" for the pit crew to aim for when changing a tire during the heat of the battle, that trick is still used by some of the Cup & Busch teams today. So make a choice, justify it by whatever means you will. They were on the front only for the above reason, no other!
[IMG]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...il_26_1964.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...edium/2160.jpg[/IMG]
Nice shot of the 146 car, Rick. Dont think I've seen that shot before, what is it published in?

computerworks 06-04-2006 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Byots
Not all 427's came with rear hub center caps, mine didn't.....
The dealer probably swapped them to another car.:p

decooney 06-04-2006 11:33 PM
Brent,
Funny now that you mention it, I took mine off about three years ago and just could not get myself to put them back on. Agreed, looks way better to me with no caps at all.

Byots 06-05-2006 07:22 AM
caps
 
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Rick Parker 06-05-2006 07:59 AM
Not Cobra related but:
In the 60's it was a common practice for Porsche dealers to replace the spare Fuchs alloy ($$) with a steel wheel and every 4th car created a set of wheels to be sold in the parts dept OR individually as a spare......go figure!

quickjack 06-05-2006 01:42 PM
I guess there was not enough margin in Porches and those poor basturds had to do whatever they could to feed the kids ;)

*13* 06-05-2006 01:48 PM
YOu know what the difference between a Porsche & a porcupine is?:LOL:

HSSS427 08-05-2006 10:27 AM
Do tell.....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge
Hehe, yeah. I spent a LOT of time and effort on that motor, making sure every nut, every bolt, every wire, bracket, clamp, etc was as correct to an original as I could. Lots of photos, questions, and buying wrong parts :). But I am really happy with how it came out. Other than the obvious block difference (it's a 390), the rest of the motor is pretty much exact to an original (save for one or two items I haven't changed yet).
Power Surge,
Can you share the details on your "original" engine build? It would be interesting and informative to hear about what you found through your research. For example, given my recent trials with blow-by, I'm curious to hear how that was addressed on original engines. Was the only venting the oil recovery tank on the firewall with a line from the rear breather hole on the intake? How did those oil tanks work? Did you just have to empty them, or did the oil run back in to the crankcase?

Thanks!
Scott

Power Surge 08-05-2006 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HSSS427
Power Surge,
Can you share the details on your "original" engine build? It would be interesting and informative to hear about what you found through your research. For example, given my recent trials with blow-by, I'm curious to hear how that was addressed on original engines. Was the only venting the oil recovery tank on the firewall with a line from the rear breather hole on the intake? How did those oil tanks work? Did you just have to empty them, or did the oil run back in to the crankcase?

Thanks!
Scott
I don't have any blow by issues on my motor so I can't say. My motor is vented like original, with the oil fill breather cap, and the rear line going to the puke tank. The puke tank is just a vapor tank, but in the event that the vapor condenses and turns back into liquid oil, one of the lines runs back down to the Aviaid oil pan. That's what the big port on the front of the pan right behind the dipstick fill port is for.

Hope this helps.

HSSS427 08-05-2006 02:25 PM
Ah ha....I wondered what those other ports were for on the oil pan.

Any ideas where I can get an original style oil puke tank?
Thanks!

Power Surge 08-05-2006 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HSSS427
Ah ha....I wondered what those other ports were for on the oil pan.

Any ideas where I can get an original style oil puke tank?
Thanks!
Most of the Cobra resto places should sell them. You might be able to buy one from Kirkham as well, since they put them on their cars.


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