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Post By Randy Rosenberg

09-04-2021, 08:30 AM
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Once the Manx is legally titled in CA (using the VW VIN), then there's no need to change the title.
If you a building a "new" Manx from scratch, using no VW parts (ie: no VW VIN), then you would be building a "Specially Constructed Vehicle", eligible for SB100 Smog Exemption, based up on the year that body represents (just like a building a new Cobra Replica).
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09-04-2021, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy Rosenberg
Once the Manx is legally titled in CA (using the VW VIN), then there's no need to change the title.
If you a building a "new" Manx from scratch, using no VW parts (ie: no VW VIN), then you would be building a "Specially Constructed Vehicle", eligible for SB100 Smog Exemption, based up on the year that body represents (just like a building a new Cobra Replica).
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I guess the question in the buggy world, is your first point....if the only thing left is a VW tunnel, or small piece of the tunnel with the original VIN, is the Manx Buggy legally titled when the Reg says 1963 VW Beetle? I really don't know and it's part of the reason I am here. (20x-30x? as many Cobras on the road as Manx's, so larger knowledge base)
I am also here for guidance on the second point. While Cobras were sold as a production car in the US, Manx buggies were not. So how do we get the SB100 referenced to the year the body represents (our desired outcome) vs the much newer honda, subaru or LS engine that is installed?
Thx for taking the time to reply.
Last edited by SB100FOMO; 09-04-2021 at 04:08 PM..
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09-04-2021, 06:35 PM
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This from CA DMV site:
A SPCNS vehicle does not refer to a vehicle that has been repaired or restored using replacement parts, or to a vehicle modified from its original design.
Example: A Volkswagen “Beetle” with modified fenders, engine compartment lid, and front end is not considered a specially constructed vehicle because it is still recognizable as a Volkswagen “Beetle”.
How does one insure a Yenko, Baldwin Motion Nova? AGREED Value?
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09-04-2021, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NROTOXIN
This from CA DMV site:
A SPCNS vehicle does not refer to a vehicle that has been repaired or restored using replacement parts, or to a vehicle modified from its original design.
Example: A Volkswagen “Beetle” with modified fenders, engine compartment lid, and front end is not considered a specially constructed vehicle because it is still recognizable as a Volkswagen “Beetle”.
How does one insure a Yenko, Baldwin Motion Nova? AGREED Value?
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Yes, lots of grey areas to sort through. Most everyone recognizes a Manx, but is a Manx "recognizable as a Beetle? in the eyes of the DMV?
I've read most of this info - https://www.semasan.com/semaga/TagTitleToolbox_CA.pdf
but I think a big part of the difficulty is that everyone's SB100 experience is so different based on the individuals you have to deal with along the way (@ DMV, BAR, CHP)
Last edited by SB100FOMO; 09-04-2021 at 08:56 PM..
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09-04-2021, 09:28 PM
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No gray area here. If you build a Manx from scratch then the SB100 route is what you take. If you are utilizing a production vehicle with a VIN that has previously registered as an XXX then that is what you have.
SB100 is not the a route that will allow you to identify a Manx just as my 2001 SPCNS does not identify my car as a COBRA.
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09-04-2021, 10:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NROTOXIN
No gray area here. If you build a Manx from scratch then the SB100 route is what you take. If you are utilizing a production vehicle with a VIN that has previously registered as an XXX then that is what you have.
SB100 is not the a route that will allow you to identify a Manx just as my 2001 SPCNS does not identify my car as a COBRA.
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If you use only the VW tunnel with a VIN previously which was previously (or always) registered as a VW Beetle, and everything else is new and different than VW, do you have a production vehicle? Or a new SPCN vehicle?
Not a rhetorical question, I honestly don't know, even though this is standard practice in the Manx world.
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09-04-2021, 10:39 PM
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It's a VW, and that is the example DMV provided. What exactly are you after and what is it that you think an SB100 brings to the party? Expectations?
If you build one from scratch, like our Cobras, then you go the SB100 route.
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