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Excaliber, good post. Enjoyed it.
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Excalibur, we just disagree about all of this. That is fine. Enjoy your car!!
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Imagine, for a moment, that the ONLY options you had for a replica were Shelby or an SPF?
They would be priced more along the lines of a Ferrari and 90% of current owners would not exist. As it was back in the day, a small very exclusive group of owners. Hmmm, that would be interesting, I'd certainly have a PICTURE of a Cobra on my wall, the garage would be empty though... :) Come to think of it, SPF wouldn't exist had Shelby retained the trade dress from the beginning. In fact, modern Shelbys would not likely exist either. We would be left with only the original 1,000 or so cars! Which would sell for considerably less than they are selling for now because the history would have largely been lost. A mere "foot note" in the big picture of the car world, a good chance Shelby would have never even made a "come back" at all? |
I've had 6 Cobra's over the last 15 years, 1 Component Craft, 4 have been SPFs and the last one a Kirkham. I got out for a few years and really missed it so during the holiday's was in the market again looking for finished rollers. I enjoy finishing the engine/trans etc. and looked at Shelby CSX fiberglass cars and SPF first thinking in this economy maybe there are some deals. I was surprised to see the CSX fiberglass cars are up near $ 58-60K when you add the options, like stripes, glove box and the things most Cobras have. I talked to several dealers and most don't even have any and the ones that do are not discounting much The $ 49K is a bit misleading !
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Ernie, I applaud your passion. It's misguided from time to time, and I disagree with you on many things. But I still applaud it, never the less.
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Buy your Cobra, whatever one you want, and drive it. I put 4000 miles on my CSX last summer, even with the engine running as crappy as it is. Cobra Country has lots of good cars, but there are SPF and FFR cars that frequently show up on major Craigs List sites. From experience I can tell you that you should "try on" the car. They are a little hard to get in and out of. I tried on a SPF and the steering wheel hit my lap even with the seat all the way back (and I'm not going to mount the seat to the floor to get rid of the rails.) The CSX is comfortable. |
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twobjshelbys carbon fibre sweet
gsharapa good point new hurricane is another good option GR997S www.cobraregistry.com/main.aspx saw a kirkham FIA for 68K , great company , nice price . RodKnock as always, very enjoyable SDR ________ LAUNCH BOX VAPORIZER |
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GR, Like you, I am looking for a Cobra. I pretty quickly settled on a SPF and am looking for a used one. I think the Cobra CSX list is about $15k more than a similar SPF as a new roller. The SPF is pushing my budget so I didn't think much about the CSX. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the CSX holds its value to the point it is worth it. I have no interest in a kit to build or a donor kit. I think there are several manufactures that make cars in the same class as the SPF, some better, some not. Since I'm so ignorant about all of this (but spending $50k? More money than brains!) I thought I would simplify it and lock onto the SPF. Now I'm getting so picky about what exactly I want, I may never find the perfect car. I'm in Vegas next month and will check into the CSX more.
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I agree ... I spent probably a year trolling Cobra Country and Club Cobra looking for the right Cobra for me. It was especially difficult, because I was really looking for a 289 FIA car, which certainly narrows down the offerings in the 'pre owned' market. To my mind, probably no car will be absolutely perfect, but take the time to figure what you want, then go for it. That is actually part of the fun. You might get lucky and actually find a used one that is 'perfect' or 'perfect enough' and then you get the car you want and save some money. Otherwise, take a clean sheet of paper and make a list of what your dream Cobra would be and then talk to the builder/vendor of your choice to see what it would take in terms of time, effort and money to make the dream come true. That's my .02 |
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I have owned my SPF for over 10 years.It is a wonderful product. I do however, now prefer a more original body style as with the CSX, Kirkham and ERA and will be "looking" in the near future. |
The dealers are not going to drop there price in my opinion on new rollers. They quite ordering from the factories when the economy tanked. The supply and demand equation. Factory aint making them, dealers arent ordering, low inventory.
I have owned 2 cobras and flipped a couple, including 1 brand spanking new one, and one as close to new as you could get without being new. The two "new" ones cost the most and without a doubt required the most rework and troubleshooting. To put numbers to it one had 21 bugs the other 17. Trust me I easily put in over 100 hours figuring the sheet out and the whole time risking scratching the car while I squirmed under the dash etc. Unless you have money to burn and willing to kiss asss with your dealer so god for bid you dont piss them off since you gave them in excess of $50K to fix your car over a 3 month period and always wait for the "factory" to answer BUY USED!!!!!! No title questions, it is either right or wrong. The original owner sorted some if not most of the bugs You touch, see, drive, smell before you drive - not wonder if damage will occure in transit and here "we have a great body shop" The guy that bought the one with the salvage title may have the right idea, in the end though at best he will break even and probably loose money including his time unless he is going to do every piece of work himself and when he goes to sell who says he is a good engine builder etc. |
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http://www.dmautosales.com/galleria_.../12_main_f.jpg To quote the immortal Clint Eastwood; "Anybody who'd paint a car like that, a color like THAT aught to have his ass removed!" :LOL: :eek: :confused: %/ :rolleyes: :cool: :o :CRY: Now back to the regularly scheduled banter........... Steve |
What a great thread! Does anyone know how much SPF prices went up after they signed the licensing agreement with Shelby? Seems like you could figure how much they paid for the license with that. I would really like to know how the list price has changed over the years on the SPF.
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