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SunDude 09-04-2012 11:35 AM

Need help identifying some Cobras from Monterey Historics
 
Most likely this year's Monterey Car Week -- including the Carmel and Pebble Beach Concours, the Monterey Historics and the many classic car auctions -- attracted the greatest number of original 260/289 and 427 Cobras that we may ever see together in our lifetimes.

I've put together a list of 120+ originals that were there, and have pictures of many of them (that is, until my camera battery died on me). I've positively identified about 110 cars so far, but am missing a few and hoped that some of you could help fill in the gaps. Specifically I'm looking to confirm:
  • that they are in fact originals and not replicas, and
  • their chassis numbers.
Not all of the photos are mine, so I've identified the photographer for those that aren't.

The 260/289 Cobras

CSX2063 -- Confirmed
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...46500323_n.jpg

replica (John's Custom Fabrication) -- Confirmed
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...83261521_n.jpg

CSX2571 -- Confirmed *
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...15181898_n.jpg

CSX2578 -- Confirmed *
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...23149858_n.jpg

CSX7041 on display in the Competition Classics tent -- Confirmed
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...54308127_n.jpg

CSX7024 -- Confirmed **
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...23214207_n.jpg

CSX2298 -- Confirmed
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...96054806_n.jpg

CSX2??? blue ***
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...30087825_n.jpg

CSX2439 -- Confirmed *
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...72610622_n.jpg

CSX2237 -- Confirmed
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...84598882_n.jpg

The 427 Cobras

CSX3154 narrow hip -- Confirmed *
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...22345617_n.jpg

CSX3215 -- Confirmed
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...31290501_n.jpg

CSX3253 -- Confirmed ***
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...08909701_n.jpg

CSX3318 -- Confirmed **
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...20436670_n.jpg

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Photo credits: * J. Burgy, ** R. Lloyd, *** D. Vickrey

computerworks 09-04-2012 11:38 AM

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CSX2??? on display in the Competition Classics tent
CSX7000 car.

computerworks 09-04-2012 11:51 AM

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CSX2063 -- can anyone confirm this?
Correct.

LuvDaBlues 09-04-2012 01:03 PM

Now I'm not positive, but the red slabside (with the Essex Mustang in the background) is a Kirkham. Saw it, or one exactly like it, the weekend before at the Pre-Reunion. Beautiful little car. The guy with the hanging aluminum body shell informed me.

SunDude 09-04-2012 01:26 PM

Thanks for the info, Ron.

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Originally Posted by LuvDaBlues (Post 1208825)
Now I'm not positive, but the red slabside (with the Essex Mustang in the background) is a Kirkham. Saw it, or one exactly like it, the weekend before at the Pre-Reunion. Beautiful little car. The guy with the hanging aluminum body shell informed me.

I think I saw the one you mean. It was a gorgeous Wagner-built Kirkham 289 with a Michigan plate (061 422). But that one had chrome wire wheels, not painted wheels like the one in the pic above.

Nedsel 09-04-2012 04:47 PM

Let's see. Under 2063 is a silver 289 that may be 2271; don't know. Red 289 below that with dual quads - still working on it. Below that is red 289 w/ CA. tag - 2578. Blue #11 and red #24 are not CSX 2xxx cars. Silver 289 w/ NV tag: 2298. Blue 289 below it: ? Darker blue 289: I think it's 2439. Then is 2237 (white/ blue stripes 289); 3154 (narrow hip silver 427); 3215 (dark green 427 w/ CA tags); 3253 (dark green 427 w/ IN tags); and 3318 (red 427 w/ Webers).

A-Snake 09-04-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedsel (Post 1208876)
and 3318 (red 427 w/ Webers).

Ned, Notice the metal finish of the Webers, design of side pipes, addition of bumpers, wheels. Still think it's 3318?

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...67DSCN4608.JPG

Nedsel 09-04-2012 06:04 PM

Maybe not. I thought that was Gary Hunter's car based on where I recall it was parked, but there are some detail differences...

mickmate 09-04-2012 06:54 PM

#11 is Tom Newlands car 7030. 2298 is a Coupe.

Nedsel 09-04-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1208930)
#11 is Tom Newlands car 7030. 2298 is a Coupe.

Nope. #11 is John Bessey's "2259" replica. And 2298 is a silver roadster owned by former Trans-Am, star Tom Gloy. 2299 is a coupe.

SunDude 09-05-2012 05:39 AM

Thanks a million for the info, Ned.

By the way I finally did identify the burgundy 289 I had asked you about in front of the Shelby Heritage Display. The one that had eluded me all week, like Susanne Somers in American Graffiti. It was CSX2419.

A-Snake 09-05-2012 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SunDude (Post 1209016)
Thanks a million for the info, Ned.

By the way I finally did identify the burgundy 289 I had asked you about in front of the Shelby Heritage Display. The one that had eluded me all week, like Susanne Somers in American Graffiti. It was CSX2419.

SunDude, Did you happen to notice the
clever body modification to CSX2419? ;-)

SunDude 09-05-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Snake (Post 1209020)
SunDude, Did you happen to notice the
clever body modification to CSX2419? ;-)

At the risk of looking stupid, uhhh, what do you mean? The "289 snake" graphic on the hood scoop?

A-Snake 09-05-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SunDude (Post 1209025)
At the risk of looking stupid, uhhh, what do you mean? The "289 snake" graphic on the hood scoop?

Nope, did you notice different width wires on the rear with 'stock' street flares? ;)

SunDude 09-05-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Snake (Post 1209040)
Nope, did you notice different width wires on the rear with 'stock' street flares? ;)

I see. They sure do fill out the wells.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....vival-2012.jpg
(Autoblog pic from the McCalls Revival)

A-Snake 09-05-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SunDude (Post 1209043)
I see. They sure do fill out the wells.

Now compare to a stock street 289.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ebble-2012.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...21843809_n.jpg

mickmate 09-05-2012 11:19 AM

That guy with the yellow shirt in the last picture had something to do with that subtle modification you're talking about didn't he? I know about that but I'll be quiet on CSX #'s and just take notes ;-)

A-Snake 09-05-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1209074)
That guy with the yellow shirt in the last picture had something to do with that subtle modification you're talking about didn't he? I know about that but I'll be quiet on CSX #'s and just take notes ;-)

Nope, you're thinking about the offset machining he did for American mags.
This mod is not a 'machining' change. ;)

mickmate 09-05-2012 03:53 PM

Are we just talking rim widths?

A-Snake 09-05-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1209132)
Are we just talking rim widths?

The rears are wider, but notice what was
done to have them 'under-cover' ;-)


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