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We just did the headers last week for Matt Gregorys Red CSX. The primaries did appear to be a thinner gauge steel and the side pipes look like they were welded by a third grader. Matt had to call Ted and have him send different side pipes which were much better so we could complete the job. On the drivers side we ended up taking the header to the muffler shop and having them bend all of them 10 degrees so they lined up in the middle of the hole.
To do these headers you need a good welder. Thankfully I have agood one on the hook. We now can complete both sides in about 4 hours. Again they will not fit right out the box as Bill and Kris had already mentioned. |
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As to whether you're a "gashole" I can't for the life of me recall you ever posting at our site and introducing yourself...at least not under your handle here. :confused: |
I was not expecting a perfect out of the box fit
Hey Morgan,
after being told for the 10th time that they are not going to fit perfectly out of the box and that they will need to be massaged, I do get it. The pipe that I have for # 5 does not fit by any exhaust port - no matter how much I turn and twist it. The other 7 line up well enough that they need to be massaged and tweaked and welded. My # 5 looks nothing like any one elses # 5 that I have seen. By the way, where is the steering shaft on your driver's side picture? John(;-) |
I was hoping for an e-mail / private message reply
Hey Jammo,
I went over to gasholes and posted something so that you could see me. I have been lurking and working on my cobra. I post more often on corner carvers. As far as contacting Amy B, I was / am hoping for email / pm, but chose not trying to call her since I don't think I would be able to get a hold of her. I was also advised by my guy at Shelby to try and arrange a face to face some time. Thanks one and all for the adviceand support. John(;-) |
One "m" please.
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my appologies
I am sorry that I mis spelled your name ja[color="Magenta"][b][i][u]mo. By the way, did you have some brembo 2000 cobra R calipers for sale a couple of years ago on corner carvers?
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Is that some sort of engine brake on the flywheel ? Jakko Brake ?
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Steering shaft
Over the steering shaft:
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._12_06_024.jpg Large dimple in pipe: http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d..._12_06_028.jpg jdog |
John, Clearly you do not need advice from me.
jdog, We do not dent #5 at all and if we do it's very little at least less than the picture you posted.
Bill, Your Cobra is looking outstanding. Can't wait to see it up close and in person. :) |
Might change it later
Morgan, I might change it out later & re-rout it under the steering shaft. But it's painted flat black and you can hardly see it down inside there. The car is running strong, so for now it's fine.
Everything else on my car seems to be working fine, no differential leaks, so far! How's your car running?:) jdog |
Ok John, here is the real deal! There were two different sets of tools used to create headers and sidepipes. One set was for the aluminum car and one set of tools for the fiberglass car. The headers supplied to Shelby were marked with a part# of K-7110 F for fiberglass and K-7110 A for the aluminum car.
A simple way to tell if you have the correct set of headers for your paticular car is the #5 tube is a four section tube that passes over the steering shaft.The aluminum car #5 tube passes under the steering shaft. If you use the correct set for your car you do not have to beat them with a hammer! Check the part # on the box,then check the #5 tube. There is however one caviat to this. You may have a new Shelby header which is supplied by Dynaflex which are pretty easy to spot. The tube is 18 gauge instead of 16 guage and the flanges that bolt the headers to the cylinder head are thin usually 5/16" or even 1/4" instead of 3/8". This information is gospel and not what someone thinks they know. Flowking |
Give Flowking a Gold Star
Sound like much of what I said but with more detail. Good job Flowking:MECOOL: Too my point it is not necessary to bang the pipe to hell to get it to fit. And I will add the DynaFlex supplied pipes are crap compared to the others they supplied in the past.
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I'll 2nd what both Morgan & The King have said about this subject. Shelby had headers that fit, they just don't know it.
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Too Bad I have k70110 headers
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of course , looking at the invoice I have a part number differnet than either of what you gave me. I will check the box tommorrow. They do have 4 sections, but they seem to want to go up instead of back on the # 5 pipe. The saga continues.. |
"F" headers
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Shelby sent me a new set of driver's side headers that look like my old ones except that they are rusty and the welds are not as nice. My original box had an "F" designation on the end of the part number. By cutting off the tack welds holding the pipe to the flange I can manipulate it to the # 5 exhaust port over the steering shaft where it wedges between the steering shaft and the body support (NO play for engine or side pipe movement). Unfortunately I also cannot manipulate the pipe in from the top (trying to thread it by the end that will connect with the side pipe) or up between the steering shaft and the body support with the flange on the pipe. Suggestions
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Another # 5 pipe is on its way :)
Thanks again flow king. Gary is sending me another # 5 tube (from an aluminum car this time) which should fit better. I'll post when it arrives.
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The side pipes and headers are off to caps brite hot coating for ceramachroming
Gary Davis came through - again. I ended up having to have a # 5 pipe from an aluminum car and a # 5 pipe from my fiberglass car cut and rewelded several times, but all 8 pipes fit happily with no denting. My # 5 pipe fits nicely under the steering shaft. I still do not understand why the fiberglass cars' # 5 pipe are supposed to go between the steering shaft and the body support while the aluminum cars are supposed to go under the steering shaft. Is it to make it look more original? Why make 2 diferent sets of headers for what should be basically the same car? Thanks to all who replied and helped me out (especially the guys at Shelby).
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The new headers are IN!
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Okay, I just got the headers back from being ceramachromed by Cap's Brite Hot coating in Fresno. They look great. I have included images of 5-8 laying on the ground in order and in the car. CSX4788 should be on the road soon. Thanks again to all who helped.
John(;-) P.S. Can anyone tell me why the # 5 header is designed to go over the steering shaft and between it and the body support? Is it more authentic that way? The # 5 pipe did have to be chopped and tweaked and re welded multiple times inorder to get it to fit and line up by my race car mentor Dave Murray. |
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