CSX3051 History
Does anyone have any good historical information on CSX3051? A number of parts on my car came from 3051 and I am just trying to track down some history on this car.
Thanks, Rich |
...not much in the Registry...did a little local drag racing when new...that's about it.
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Thanks for checking. I have the history from the guy that had the parts left over but was hoping to track down some more as I am sure he doesn't have all the info. I did not know about the drag racing.
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I’m sure there are and were owners of original Cobras that may have cared less whether their cars have the correct original parts. I’m also sure there are owners that would like to correct perhaps errors in judgment by prior owners. Finding original parts to restore or maintain an original Cobra can be very difficult whereas finding a suitable new part to create a replica is much easier. I believe any rare original part should be used first to maintain or restore original Cobras. Just my $.02 |
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Many new reproduction parts have been produced to feed the replica market. Many of these parts will not fit an original Cobra correctly. They are at best a ‘will work’ (maybe). Again, you’re correct it is an open market. I can only suggest that when there is an option of a good newer part to use on a replica rather than perhaps a more expensive and perhaps not as good a part from an original Cobra, why not use the newer part? |
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By the way, I am also able to look at this subject from the other side. I own a 1968 Dodge Charger R/T that my father bought new in 1968. At some point along the line the original Magnum 500 wheels were removed and the shop that had them ended up "losing track of them". I now have a nice replica set of mag wheels on the car. I have looked for original wheels to put on the car. I have found some but chosen not to buy them since I am happy with the repops but some day may decide to go the original route. If I was to somehow find the actual wheels from my car I would certainly pay over market value to return them to the car. This is a little different because it would not just be to bring the car back to original but a car that has been in the family since new. The bottom line is that if I choose to buy an original set of wheels I would have no expectation to receive preferencial treatment from the seller just because I was planning on putting them on an original Charger. Yes this is a bit different than the Cobra since there were less Cobras but I still do not see it as my duty to search out the original car's owner. The reason I have the parts in the first place is because I did the searching. They could have easily beat me to the parts if they searched half as hard as I did. |
An interesting discussion from both sides of the fence on the original parts question.
I do admire those that seek to build a replica to more exacting standards than is common today. The replica market is more and more moving towards a 'who cares, it's a replica' attitude. Well, I care, as do a handful of others. I gotta admit, I'd be pretty thrilled to have a few original pieces on my replica, and at the same time, would like to see those parts returned to the original car. ...it's a tough call all right! I think richsd has a good handle on it. |
I agree with Richsd. Enjoy your Kirkham with a splattering of original parts. I could be wrong but the "original" market too has benefited for the replica boom over the last twenty years. They could be much worse off without them than with them - repect and appreciate the replica market.
As a personal preference I like newer and better performing components than the old heavy do-dads - but that's me. |
I'm with ASnake. If the owner showed, I'd trade him the oe parts for replacements of my choosing, freight on him. I think if you love the cars you should respect the originals. Does a replica having an original trunk latch, seat or windshield mean as much to you as it would to the original????? I owned 3 perfect HiPo 289's and they NEVER saw the inside of a replica Cobra or GT350, but one I sold for what I paid for it (and a heck of a lot less than market value) so a 1965 GT350 owner could 'restify' his car with a correct motor. Makes me happy every time I see the car here in town. :D
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I completely agree on the trunk latch. Anything with a CSX number stamped into it should be sold back to the owner of the original car without questions. With other parts, I think this is a great landing place for these parts too but the current owner just needs to compete on price like anyone else. They don't get a pass to avoid competing for the parts just because they own the current car.
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Richsd has a point
Let's face it, how many original parts out of cobras and other muscle cars were simply tossed into the trash or put into the rafters never to be seen again when cars were converted/restored/modified over the years because no one cared about originality?
I like what richsd did to his car, tastefully done with a clear goal of what he wanted when he started. If some tasty parts were used so be it, at least those parts still exist. If the owner of the original car want's them he can talk to richsd. |
What would you like to know about csx3051? I knew original owner, Richard Merrill.
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Congratulations on resurrecting a 14 year old post ;)
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Be nice to a new member, we've all been there ;)
Johnfish, welcome! Tell us whatever you can about CSX3051. Any new and/or first hand information about original cars is 'gold'! I, for one, don't have any pictures of 3051 Cheers, Glen |
Welcome from California Johnfish, I bet a guy that knew an original Cobra before they became millionaires cars could share some good and fun information with us.
Looking forward to your next post. |
I find this post quite interesting, even though it does not give more info about 3051:
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/cobr...-sc-427-a.html CSX3058 was sold to the VP of Sony Trading Corp, and shipped to Tokyo, CSX3060 went to Kobe, CSX3062 was also shipped to Japan. As of 4/97. CSX3064-CSX3069 were "under construction", CSX3070-CSX3100 were in "frame only" condition. All of which were produced after 1991. (also from the 1997 SAAC registry) Perhaps Bill (Mr. Mustang) can tell you more about 3051. I personally saw CSX3063 as a roller from Cobra Restorers(?) at the '95 Convention. Heavily scrutinized by a man with a ruler in his hand. |
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