SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Cobra Tech Areas > Shop Talk

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2003, 11:22 AM
KobraKarl's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle, WA,
Posts: 1,389
Not Ranked     
Default

HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPH ..........I think your crystal ball has been dropped !..............hard !

I can tell you , I stripped those babies down to the last little nit,

All parts were tanked in fresh cleaner for 36 hrs

then washed in near boiling high detergent water ,

every hole, port, nook and cranny was bown out with 120 psi.
fine tip nozzle,

then rinsed twice more in near boiling water and blown out again,

reassembled them with all new Holley parts and gaskets with the "Holley Rebuild "book open in front of me,

every thing assembled with a dab of vaseline where needed,

torqed every screw to the list inch pounds


Man i tell ya . if thse two carbs arent "right " now ,I could rebuild them another six times and I wouldnt know what to do different

And .....they run great!

I'm going to do some filter swapping later today and see how things work out .....
__________________
Foolish consistancy is the hobgoblin of tiny minds
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2003, 06:24 PM
SCOBRAC's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
Posts: 2,567
Not Ranked     
Cool

The filters are not the problem.. a more restrictive filter (which Hellings are not) would slow your idle down.. Did you straighten the carb bodies with a straight edge?? What were the tolerances used?

HMMMMMMMMmmmm??? Also when you reassembled them did you do it in the same way you took them apart, keeping track of which body and jet plates went with each body. If you didn't and you also didn't true the housings, bodies and jet plates you likely have a vacuum leak at the carb.. It isn't a good idea to use compressed air on a carb without filtering first..

What lash did you set at the accelerator pump housing? You should have a few thousands to 15 thousanths gap. Did you change the primary set screw setting? (accessable from under the carb) If no, were you keeping track that you reinstalled the primary plate and the secondary in their respective positions?? If yes, how much did you open or close the primarys?

All of the items listed can cause the problem you describe..

Good luck..
__________________
michael

A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

Last edited by SCOBRAC; 03-09-2003 at 06:28 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2003, 09:02 PM
KobraKarl's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle, WA,
Posts: 1,389
Not Ranked     
Default

Micheal , thanks for the check list.........
both carbs had warped bodies which i trued carefully with a fine tooth file , I marked primary and secondary components lightly with an awl, I also rebuilt the two carbs in sequence to avoid any confusion,my shop compressor does have an inline filter, I did not touch the secondary set screw, I just went down and took a look,the vac. secondary apears to be open maybe a "curly red one",primary's are linkage adjusted.

Now if i didnt make this very clear, it went like this; after everything was bolted back up (exept cleaners) I started it up and played with the floats,idle screws,and linkage until she was running pretty nice. Went for a 10 mile shake down and she ran well. 3 or 4 days later the S&H come in the mail ,i bolt them on and the rpm's wont come down when she is warm............ so i just turn down the primary idle screw and again she runs fine.

I just couldnt understand the "apparent"correlation. After all this feed back I'm starting to wonder if maybe the idle cam stuck or the distributor stuck or some other "coincidental" condition.
I was going to experiment today , but went to the seattle roadster show instead..............several FFR an SPF and one original 289 in FIA format.
__________________
Foolish consistancy is the hobgoblin of tiny minds
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 03-10-2003, 02:53 PM
Mr.Fixit's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: so cal, Cal
Cobra Make, Engine: I used to fix them for a living
Posts: 2,563
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by southernfriedcj


Driving a car without an airfilter would seem to be a good way to invite an engine fire. If you have backfire through the carb(s), you better be fast with the fire extinguisher! I've never put a burning Cobra out, but I put several hundred car fires out in my time on the Atlanta Fire Dept.
If you catch your carb on fire, before you spray it with the extinguisher, crank the motor over with the starter, it will suck the fire out. If the motor is running, rev it a good one. I have never had a "top of the carb" fire, that could survive at RPM. The accel pumps will feed it for a monment, but then it will get sucked through.
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 03-11-2003, 12:29 AM
SCOBRAC's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
Posts: 2,567
Not Ranked     
Default

I told you it was haunted.
__________________
michael

A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy