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Old 01-14-2008, 05:25 PM
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Default helicoil stripped out of block - now what?

Yesterday while torquing down the head bolts, one pulls the helicoil out of the block @50# torque. Out it came just in pieces of coil thread, which tells me the engine builder probably installed it incorrectly. And there are no threads left in the block for another helicoil. Now what? Anyone have any experience with this?

I don't want to have to pull the block as my rebuild budget is used up. Read something about 2 types of inserts; Keyserts and Timeserts. Anyone tried these?

The machinist who did my aluminum heads says we should use a Keysert but I am worried about the hole size being too big. Tomorrow I am going by his shop to look at them. All advice is greatly be appreciated.

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I have used Timeserts for years with great results.
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Default Go to a GM store and ask about repairing the motor

RedSabre Mike If you go to a GM store we have a kit for motor repair. They are timecerts. Have used them for the last 3 years. If the repair is done right the repair is stronger and will last longer than the helicoil. I have had to replace helicoils in my shelby heads. They would back out under heat cycles. I replaced all 8 in the heads with timecerts and 2 in the main block. Raced the motor and have had no problems. IMO the timecerts are stronger than a helicoil. Lock into the hole, mount flush. They also come in a master kit for about $300.00 with all the metric sizes you would need. In the kit is the correct drill bit, bottom tap, reamer to make the timecert flush with the surface, and the installer. This is for each size. IMO if helicoils are so good, then why would GM (and only speaking from 25+years of GM experience) give us a kit with timecerts and not helicoils? The is for both Aluminium and iron repairs. I think helicoils work great for quick repairs and will hold under low load torque settings, like spark plugs. But under heavy torque loads, and many heat cycles they weaken. Rick Lake Ps I have not tryed Keycerts but they work about the same as Timecerts. Installation is key.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:17 PM
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Well we ended up putting something similar to a Timesert but it has a slot across the face to use to screw it in and it went in just fine. Machinist gave me the insert, loaned me his drill bits and a tap. Man what a deal!. Heads are on now and we are moving on to the rest of the rebuild.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Mike

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