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itstock 08-24-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GBowman (Post 1206777)
Here are the Cam specs we are going with:

294 300 @ .006

@.006 Int opens 41 BTDC closes 73 ABDC
Ex opens 84 BBDC closes 36 ATDC

106 intake centerline

Duration at .050 int. 242 ex. 248

Lobe lift int. .360 ex. .375

Lobe separation 110

Short block is being assembled now-hopefully done in time for some nice weather.

That sounds like the Comp Cams xr294. It's a good sounding cam. :cool:

GBowman 09-08-2012 09:08 AM

Update
 
The short block is complete-Ford Racing is assembling the top end and will run on the dyno, should have the new engine in the car in a couple of weeks.

I did find out from Holbrook Racing (who does FR work) that the block could have been repaired but FR wanted a new block made. This added a few weeks to the process but overall I am pleased with the support I have received from Ford Racing. I know some people have had issues with them and were vocal about it so I felt it is fair to let folks know of my positive experience thus far...they never questioned a thing about my claim and never attempted to skirt responsibility for liability. They allowed me to make changes on the new motor and offered technical/engineering support in order to help me build a set up that would work for my application.

No, I have not fired it up yet nor have I received the engine but I just received the latest update from Marty at FR and thought I would would share what has been a positive experience with everyone.

Enjoy the weekend, and enjoy your ride if you can-I have grown to appreciate my car A LOT more since I have not been able to drive it:eek:!!!!

YerDugliness 09-08-2012 09:32 AM

Good for FR, Gary!

I, for one, always tell a business when I am happy with their service. I mention that they always hear when someone is unhappy, but seldom when customers are happy, they seem to be very appreciative of the fact that at least a few of us are aware of that.

Good luck with the install....hopefully there will be plenty of time in the driving season for you to get that Cobra back on the road and enjoy the fall season!

Cheers!

Dugly :cool:

GBowman 09-21-2012 03:16 PM

Yay! The motor just came off the dyno-570HP @ 5800/582FTLB @ 4800

Im happy, hydro roller so easy breezy-only lost about 30HP from the solid set up and better low end torque.

Ford Racing was extremely cooperative and I am a happy camper still. Now off to the garage:D

Cashburn 09-21-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBowman (Post 1211968)
Yay! The motor just came off the dyno-570HP @ 5800/582FTLB @ 4800

Im happy, hydro roller so easy breezy-only lost about 30HP from the solid set up and better low end torque.

Ford Racing was extremely cooperative and I am a happy camper still. Now off to the garage:D

Get it done and join us with it next month for the Fall Sprint Oct. 13 and 14th.

GBowman 09-21-2012 03:28 PM

Jay

Send me details I'm very interested. Been wanting to do one of these, hopefully there are watering holes nearby for after the driving is done:D

ERA Chas 09-21-2012 03:38 PM

Good for you. Nice to hear a happy story about a manufacturer.

YerDugliness 09-21-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBowman (Post 1211968)
Yay! The motor just came off the dyno-570HP @ 5800/582FTLB @ 4800

Those are GREAT numbers, especially the torque figure!

Max torque at 1000 RPMs below max HP ensures great street manners, and max HP at that RPM range means great top end pull....best of both worlds :D .

Cheers to FRP for treating you right!!!!

Dugly :cool:

vector1 09-22-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBowman (Post 1211968)
Yay! The motor just came off the dyno-570HP @ 5800/582FTLB @ 4800

Im happy, hydro roller so easy breezy-only lost about 30HP from the solid set up and better low end torque.

Ford Racing was extremely cooperative and I am a happy camper still. Now off to the garage:D

those are pretty good numbers, aluminum blocks are usually down a little power over the iron blocks i have read.

blykins 09-22-2012 06:11 PM

I need to find a different dyno....

ERA Chas 09-22-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blykins (Post 1212088)
I need to find a different dyno....

:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Do you think FORD MOTORSPORTS would fib??:confused:

blykins 09-22-2012 07:32 PM

I know what sells engines.....and it's not the color of the plug wires.

ERA Chas 09-22-2012 07:45 PM

OK so maybe the load factor was a little light and the watergrains were way down that day.

GBowman 09-22-2012 08:39 PM

Im not sure what you guys are saying? Now that the entire community has your input...bring on the criticism.

GBowman 09-22-2012 08:42 PM

Are you all saying I was lied to?

GBowman 09-22-2012 08:51 PM

Crickets........

vector1 09-23-2012 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GBowman (Post 1212113)
Are you all saying I was lied to?

no, you weren't lied to. they are referring to the ability of different dynos to display higher/lower numbers, depending on the dyno calibration. you have a very nice engine.

blykins 09-23-2012 06:56 AM

Gary, nothing wrong with your engine at all. It's a sweet piece and I didn't mean to insinuate anything.

As Vector said, dynos are a crap shoot....and most certainly a necessary evil.

GBowman 09-23-2012 08:27 AM

I see, for the record Holbrook Racing in MI built the engine and it was their Dyno machine-so if there is a fudge factor it would be on them. FR is seemingly a "badge" and uses the brand to sell engines etc...fact is that they have tech guys and engineers but don't build anything. They sub the work out to a shop, I spoke directly to Chris Holbrook @ Holbrook Racing and I checked out their company as best I could through references etc...maybe I will throw it on Philly Racing Engines Dyno here where I live just for the hell of it.

ERA Chas 09-23-2012 10:23 AM

You will surely get a different set of numbers-close but slightly different. If vastly different then someone is fudging.
Dynos are best tools for comparison tests of components or tuning adjustments in a build.
Then you can see what % of change the mods or adjustments make.
Unless you're tracking the car and need definitive numbers, save your money on a second dyno run. For a street car, your current dyno numbers are representative that you'll have a strong-running street car.


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