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Old 08-07-2014, 04:21 PM
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Default Updated my website with a dyno results page....

...with specs and dyno results from various interesting engines that I built and dynod. Windsors, FEs, and Clevelands.

May help those looking for a specific combination, to see what kind of power it would make.

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How about throwing some ballpark prices? Does it cost a lot more to build a Cleveland over a Windsor?
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You can get some ballpark prices on the engines page of the site.

Depends on what power level you want, but there's really not that much difference in pricing between windsors and clevelands .
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Corrected numbers? Graphs would be better.
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Corrected numbers? Graphs would be better.
If its worth anything to you....:
I know a guy who has one of the build listed on that link above.

Turns out he discussed with his installer about limiting the rpm back to about 5k. Well short of its max rpm (solid roller) at least for the first few thousand miles...

But after they saw the dyno sheet and power curve on their Lykins build they pretty much just laughed out loud and shook our heads in astonishment...

There still over 500hp & tq at 4k rpm mark on that particular Lykins build...
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Is the 487fe the new 482fe, I never heard that ci before, 487...
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Corrected numbers? Graphs would be better.
What do you mean by corrected? Every stuska, dts, and superflow will correct to standard conditions. I have graphs for most, just takes time to get them up there.
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What do you mean by corrected? Every stuska, dts, and superflow will correct to standard conditions. I have graphs for most, just takes time to get them up there.
Then you should state STD Corrected are the numbers you have posted, since the printout has both columns right? Have you received any chassis dyno numbers from customers to compare? That's always interesting and would be a great resource.
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Very few chassis dyno sessions....but I have had several drag race motors in cars and the engine dyno numbers jive with the ET and trap speed. In fact, the dyno I use is owned by a guy who builds nothing but drag and circle track engines.

The stuska does not spit out non corrected and corrected numbers, so STD corrected is all I have.
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Then you should state STD Corrected are the numbers you have posted, since the printout has both columns right? Have you received any chassis dyno numbers from customers to compare? That's always interesting and would be a great resource.
I'm pretty sure my engine was dynoed on a SuperFlow,but it's been almost 10 years and it only had one printout and that was for "STD Corrected" numbers.....I just assumed all dynoes were like this.......

I remember when we were getting ready to fire it up, the operator read the weather dials in the dyno room and put in the temp/barometric pressure and a couple of other things, as well as the elevation (Mean Sea Level) of the dyno before ever starting the engine........

So the printout/graph on all things was for "corrected" numbers to that dyno, that day, with those weather conditions.......

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I think pictures and maybe links to dyno videos would be a good upgrade.

Also, I think the engines should be categorized (via separate links) by SB and BB at a minimum and potentially sub-categorized by Cleveland vs. Windsor and FE vs. 385 though it doesn't appear that you have any results for 385-series engines.

Maybe even a light discussion on the customer's intended purpose of engine. For example in Dimis case, who states "I know a guy who has one of the build listed on that link above", I'm fairly sure that the guy he knows wanted the intended purpose of his engine to be a "parts getter" or "beater wagon" in order to take it to the local parks and locate rare intake manifolds hiding in bushes, while jogging by with baby in stroller, and bring said rare car parts back home.
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There's one 385 series on there, the Boss 528.

I'd be happy to add some of those, and already have some videos in another section of the page. I will add more as I have time. Pretty time consuming.
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There's one 385 series on there, the Boss 528.

I'd be happy to add some of those, and already have some videos in another section of the page. I will add more as I have time. Pretty time consuming.
I originally quickly scanned. Hard to find the words "Boss" and Kaase." But you're probably not catering to the stupid like me.
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That's why you should show the graphs, it tells more than peak etc. Take time with it and show the bigger story on a few engines. So many hours in one build, a few more minutes to convey each one.
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That's why you should show the graphs, it tells more than peak etc. Take time with it and show the bigger story on a few engines. So many hours in one build, a few more minutes to convey each one.
Agree, how it gets to that "peak" cannot be understated, this guy was looking for help to smooth things out, I expect drivability would have been a challenge under any kind of acceleration.


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thanks for the info you guys are awsome i was afraid to go bigger than .560 lift on my hyd. cam but not now.
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Altho graphs will show how much hp/tq was made at what rpm, sometimes you may get a graph that has a funny look to it that is the result of a time difference that actually effects the look of the line but not much the numbers.

I recently was doing an 57 chev with a gross assortment of components that as a result of the small diameter, long tube headers, and cobbled exhaust system (rump,rump,loud) and a manifold for extreme high rpm that had a slump? in the curve after the initial hit from down low (after header tune rpm) and before it got to the manifold tuned range------wasn;t something you could feel in drivability tests but the dyno did show it up----just a slight lessening of the curves but when done on a graph/chart without TIME as a basic looked weird!
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