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Hoity 11-17-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by d488y2 (Post 1371781)
Hoity, I'm putting a supercharged Coyote engine from a 2013 FPV GT in my build and it fits. You can also make the Coyote engine look very cool, just add an 8 stack injection system and some billet valve covers.

Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?

I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!

The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory

Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?

BADSN8K 11-17-2015 07:37 PM

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Hoity 11-17-2015 07:42 PM

That is some motor?

Might be a little more than i am looking for, price is good though!

BADSN8K 11-17-2015 08:30 PM

Hoity

You should look here.

Lots of pics and combinations

ALL the questions you have asked about THE BUILDS have been done here.

From the 427, Boss 302, SC Coyote, STD Coyote, Coyote with 8 stack and even a whipple.

VINTAGE Motorsports Photo Gallery - Backdraft Roadsters

Dimis 11-17-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1371767)
For $15000 your in FE territory with 100 more hp and 150 more tq...even a Windsor you would save 5 grand and have more power...
11 to 1 compression will need more than 93 octane not to ping, you will have to mix race fuel with premium, I had to do that with my Aluminator...

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Originally Posted by Hoity (Post 1371772)
$13995 was my cheapest in CA. Here in OZ, especially where i would be driving 95 or 98 octane fuel readily available.

For a 427 FE, if you stay with an Iron block your probably going to save $2k not $5K, if you go alloy block, by the time you add EFI etc not alot in it. We need efi here to pass emissions testing!

Hoity, you know how "oils ain't oils"... Well when comparing USA fuel to AUS fuel - "octanes ain't octanes". ;)

Hoity 11-17-2015 10:35 PM

Hey Dimis, you have got me.

How is it that all is not as it seems?

Hoity 11-17-2015 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BADSN8K (Post 1371798)
Hoity

You should look here.

Lots of pics and combinations

ALL the questions you have asked about THE BUILDS have been done here.

From the 427, Boss 302, SC Coyote, STD Coyote, Coyote with 8 stack and even a whipple.

VINTAGE Motorsports Photo Gallery - Backdraft Roadsters

Thanks for the link, full of cobra porn :)

Ps: enjoyed your YouTube clip, sweet looking ride, it seems go alright as well:)

Dimis 11-17-2015 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoity (Post 1371812)
Hey Dimis, you have got me.

How is it that all is not as it seems?

We measure using different scales.
USA uses AKI or something like that.
Aus uses RON

I can't quite remember the details. Google it for more info, but I recall researching this with my engine builder to ensure that when we built my engine compression and octane levels jived.

Thx

Hoity 11-18-2015 02:44 AM

I will google it

In the meantime I think my engine bay should look like this.

VINTAGE Motorsports Photo Gallery - DSC03351.JPG

Hoity 11-18-2015 04:02 AM

Hey Dimis, did some reading, not that I ever doubted you. Somethings are just not what they seem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Phill Pollard 11-18-2015 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimis (Post 1371815)
We measure using different scales.
USA uses AKI or something like that.
Aus uses RON

I can't quite remember the details. Google it for more info, but I recall researching this with my engine builder to ensure that when we built my engine compression and octane levels jived.

Thx

There are two ways to measure Octane ratings. The Research method and the Motor method. In the US we use the average of both combined (R+M/2).

In Oz, they use one or the other. If I remember correctly (IIRC), they use the Motor method which is the higher of the two.

Your 93 Oz octane gas is NOT the same as US 93 octane, far from it.


HTH,

Phill Pollard - Co. Spgs, CO
ERA #446 427 S/C

fordracing65 11-18-2015 02:08 PM

Our 91 octane in AZ is about 87 when tested, I had to mix 110 octane race at 5 gallons to mix with the 87 to get a 95plus octane it did not ping but I was down on power, that was the only drawback to the 11:1 compression...

d488y2 11-18-2015 02:56 PM

Pace did a test fit just before my kit was shipped. There’s not a lot of clearance but it fits. The body is currently off my build and if all goes to plan I should be dropping the engine in soon.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/pict...ictureid=13564

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoity (Post 1371788)
Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?

I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!

The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory

Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?


Hoity 11-18-2015 04:43 PM

thanks D488y, the link dan sent for vintage motorsports above has photos of what i wanted to see.
Your engine bay certainly looks full. I dont think the cobra jet manifold is any higher and in fact maybe lower than your setup.
Spoke with John at Herrods yesterday, so all good. Just need to find the dollars :)

Enjoying your build tread :)

Hoity 11-18-2015 05:30 PM

on the octane side of things, usa 87 is approx our 91 or std, usa 91 is approx our 95
usa 93 is approx 98 aus.

Everyday is a school day!

fordracing65 11-18-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoity (Post 1371888)
on the octane side of things, usa 87 is approx our 91 or std, usa 91 is approx our 95
usa 93 is approx 98 aus.

Everyday is a school day!

Our gas in AZ is so bad it just boils in a carb..

lomdel 03-26-2016 02:43 PM

If we decide to install a Coyote setup with a 6-spd Tremec, is there a source somwhere with a list of required parts and stuff needed for the full install? Or someplace with full drop in and go kits...?

Cashburn 03-26-2016 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lomdel (Post 1385766)
If we decide to install a Coyote setup with a 6-spd Tremec, is there a source somwhere with a list of required parts and stuff needed for the full install? Or someplace with full drop in and go kits...?

What are you installing it in?

TexasSnake 03-26-2016 09:00 PM

The Coyote package is a great setup in a Cobra. I'm familiar with one that James Yale owner of Radical Roadsters in Houston had In Backdraft Roadster. Impressive package, hovever; I must say that although the motor was in excess of 500 HP at idle it sounded like a Ford minivan. I know that is the result of efficient computer based fuel management and valve timing but it is not what I think of when a Cobra comes to mind. I respect the technology but the Way the Coyote power plant sounds at idle is a definite disconnect for me. Good luck with whatever combination you end up installing in your car.

pm125 03-27-2016 07:10 AM

I just got my BDR with a 435HP Coyote, it is awesome. Would not have done it any other way.


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