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SCAT vs EAGLE?
Which product is better?All made in China?
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Any ideas?????????
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That's kind of a Ford vs Chevy, Big Block vs Small Block, ect type of thing. Ask that question on The Corral, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the show.
My vote is for SCAT ('cause that's what I got) Pete |
I generally tend to lean more towards the Eagle stuff.
It is true the components from both comapnies are cast or forged overseas, the Eagle parts are machined here in the states while the Scat parts are finished overseas as well. If you carefully check all the parts and have your machinist set all the clearances you won't have any problems with either company's products. I've used and like them both. --Mike |
ive been told also that scat products are finished in california maybe some checking should be done Neil cause im using eagle rods with scat crank. my engine builder has built many of these engines and have been fine for years
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Scat cranks are finished here in Southern California. I have a Scat stroker crank and H-beam rods in my BBF
Bill |
Both are probably better than the stock stuff that come from Ford but certainly not up to the rigors of Pro Racing. The Pro cranks and rods used by Nascar and the Pro drag racers are a lot more expensive then the Scat and Eagle products.
Of course we have all seen the best built Nascar engines costing 50k + blow up in a couple of laps. They're are no guarantees in racing. I would say for amature racing/open tracking,the Scat and Eagle products are about equal. For the street they are a waste of money.( you don't need forged cranks and rods to turn 6,000 rpms.) Cranky |
I agree
I agree with Cranky but, if your pockets are deep and you want the insurance of good stuff for whatever it is worth, stay away from all the imported rods.
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I agree that you don't need a forged crank, but think forged rods are probably a good thing. You must remember that ALL factory rods in most engines we use have factory forged rods. The only engine built in the muscle car era that didn't have forged rods were the Pontiacs and they used them in the SD's and HO's. So aftermarket rods are probably not necessary,but you'll always be using a forged rod if you build a Ford engine, or most others.
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Steve, Did you not read my second paragraph. I'm talking about Carillo rods going thru the blocks on Cup moders with 2 laps on them.(engines built by the best Nascar engine builders.) What insurance??
If you can't see it or you ain't gonna use it your wasting your money. |
Cranky
I read good.
What I am saying is that if you have the $$. It can't hurt. As for your cup story, the majority of failures with Carrillos coming through the block had nothing to do with the rod. I have my blown motor over at my builders in Wayne. The Carrillo came through the pan at 8000RPM. It was not because of the Rod. |
Steve why didn't you say so, you had oil pan failure.:LOL: :LOL:
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Sorry guys about the wrong information about Scat's machining source. I got some bum information.
I went by the machine shop and got the updated skinny. In there opinion, there is virtually no difference in crank quality. The only difference is the machine work from Eagle seems to be more consistant. One important difference is in the way each company cuts the spot facing for the connecting rod bolts. Eagle uses a smaller tool to spot-face radius at the bolt head surface thus leaving more meat in the rod at a very important area. The Scat spot-face has a larger radius and the shop has seen 2 rods fail at that critical point. I must stress that these rods broke in 2 different engines that were used for racing and were being run hard. Once again I say that either companies components should be more than strong enough for a hot street/occasional track engine. Just my .02 --Mike |
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Do you really need the laughing gas in a lightweight car with 351 CI? Unless your gonna drag race most road courses won't allow Nos. If your drag racing the time spent at 6,500 is nothing compared to road racing. Lots of drag racers run cast cranks at those rpms with no problems. Cranky |
Actualy not all scat cranks are made overseas, some are made 100% in the usa
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We used to have to send out all the brand new Eagle cranks to the crankshaft shop, get them right before ever using them.
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I was told my stock rods were good for about 7k rpm and the cast crank is good up to about 650hp, but the journals in a 360 are big. With only 406hp and turning 58k I didn't worry. The next engine is getting a SCAT crank/rods and forged pistons as that's what my engine guy says to get.
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Mr Fixit, thats probably the best advice given , scat or eagle send it out to have it checked.
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