Club Cobra Keith Craft Motorsports  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Forums > Texas Cobra Club

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-06-2011, 07:05 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIII 347ci stroker 450hp
Posts: 50
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 392cobra View Post
Wayne,
Pretty common problem.What they recommended would be vent baffles not jet extensions on the secondary.

Baffles help with prevent the fuel from sloshing thru the vent in the carb throat.Causing the stalling problem during hard braking.
The Jet Extensions help to prevent fuel starvation in the secondaries from the jet becoming uncovered on hard acceleration.

Example : Holley 26-89 - Holley Fuel Bowl Vent Baffle - Overview - SummitRacing.com
You are correct. When I originally called the engine builder I thought he told me jet extenders but when I called him back, after your post, he said yes it should be the vent baffles. He probably just mispoke the first time or I mis-listened

Thanks for the feed back on this it helped, I hope.

Wayne E
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2011, 11:06 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIII 347ci stroker 450hp
Posts: 50
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wedgerton View Post
You are correct. When I originally called the engine builder I thought he told me jet extenders but when I called him back, after your post, he said yes it should be the vent baffles. He probably just mispoke the first time or I mis-listened

Thanks for the feed back on this it helped, I hope.

Wayne E
This answer wasn't the correct answer for me. When I took the float bowl off there already were baffle extenders on the metering body. I called the carburetor manufacturer, per the suggestion of the engine manufacturer Proformance Unlimited, and he told me to install rear jet extenders on the rear bowl jets and that will solve my problem. He explained it technically but to make it short, on hard stops the gas in the rear bowl flows forward creating a suction and allowing fuel to go into the carburetor through the jets thus flooding the engine. I'm going to install the jet extenders and if that solves the problem I'll post it, the technician was positive that would solve my problem.

Wayne E
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2011, 11:54 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 30
Not Ranked     
Default

Try putting the jet extenders on the primaries, that way the jets dont get uncovered under hard braking.

It worked for us !

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2011, 12:04 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIII 347ci stroker 450hp
Posts: 50
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Huddart View Post
Try putting the jet extenders on the primaries, that way the jets dont get uncovered under hard braking.

It worked for us !

Mike
What do you mean by primaries? There are two jets in the rear bowl and I will put an extender on each one.

Wayne E
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-11-2011, 12:21 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 30
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wedgerton View Post
What do you mean by primaries? There are two jets in the rear bowl and I will put an extender on each one.

Wayne E
Put the extenders on the two jets in the FRONT bowl.
Mike
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2011, 07:13 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIII 347ci stroker 450hp
Posts: 50
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Huddart View Post
Put the extenders on the two jets in the FRONT bowl.
Mike
I talked directly to the folks who built the Carb and they said they go on the rear to stop the gas from sloshing up against the jets when you hard brake. If you think about it, the gas will go forward in the bowl when you brake and in the front the gas would flow away from the jets where as in the rear it would flow up against the jet. He said the flow up against the rear jets causes a vacum of sort which draws fuel into the carb thus flooding it.


For those who like me didn't know how this works I took a couple photos. In the photos you can see the silver jet extenders installed. If you do this, the flat portion needs to point up. Also they go on very tight and you have to tap them on with a small hammer. The white plastic thing at the top of the photo is the baffle. Someone had mentioned I needed to add baffle extensions but in my case they were already installed from the factory so I didn't need to do anything with them. I also included a photo of the package the jet extenders came in, in case someone wants to order them.

I haven't driven the car yet, it's to early and I would wake up the neighbors, but if this doesn't work I'll make a post, but I feel comfortable this will fix my problem.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1166402...vK8Mmm1Y3MiwE#

Wayne E

Last edited by wedgerton; 07-12-2011 at 07:16 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2011, 07:21 AM
392cobra's Avatar
6th Generation Texan
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Devil's Backbone,RR 32, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Lone Star Classics #240,Candy Apple Red,Keith Craft 418w - 602 HP,584 TQ
Posts: 8,157
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wedgerton View Post
I talked directly to the folks who built the Carb and they said they go on the rear to stop the gas from sloshing up against the jets when you hard brake. If you think about it, the gas will go forward in the bowl when you brake and in the front the gas would flow away from the jets where as in the rear it would flow up against the jet. He said the flow up against the rear jets causes a vacum of sort which draws fuel into the carb thus flooding it.


I feel comfortable this will fix my problem.


Wayne E
Then how come the engine doesn't go rich or flood when you accelerate hard and the gas flows up against the primary jets ??
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink