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Silverback51 05-19-2010 08:10 AM

Avon Tire Question
 
For those that have Avon tires on their Cobras.

How do these tires behave when you are at the limit? Do they give you any warning that you are approaching the limit, or do they just let go without any warning?

I love the Goodyear Billboards because of the feedback they provide when you are approaching the limit. The Goodyear GT II's were terrible, and gave no warning at all.

Any input will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Excaliber 05-19-2010 08:27 AM

Eh eh, I'm running GT-II's for current street tires. They don't need to give you a warning, you can assume they ARE going to break loose if your right leg even twitches on the throttle. Let alone trying to take any easy corner at a reasonable speed.

I find them quite entertaining when it comes to throttle over steer, drifting and just letting the rear end hang out in general.

I see a set of Avons in my future, reports I've been reading here sound pretty darn good. With ONE exception: They are pretty tall, there could be some clearance issues depending on the manufacturer of your replica. My older ERA may be very marginal in that regard for the front tires.

Eljaro 05-19-2010 02:29 PM

The Avons CR66 are just wonderfull. I can only recomend them. Last year with Yokohama Avids the car was sliding all over the place and corner taking had its limit, The Avons are almost like slicks. If you check my video racing the cobra up a twisty mountain road you will see how they behave. If they reach the limit they will warn you by starting to slide. With the high profile tires snap reactions is not an issue anyway. That happens more with low profile tires, which you would not want to put on a Cobra. It would not look right.
I have 245/60-15 and 295/50-15. I really feel secure with them.

Great Asp 05-19-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1051931)
Eh eh, I'm running GT-II's for current street tires.

Well my Avons are sticky, and after three other brands/types of 15" tires on two other SPF's, I can say these are the best tire I have ever had for a Cobra.

I have tried them out on a large parking lot, and I have a good understanding of their limits, without the "snap" to slide. They are easier to balance too, no steering wheel shake like I have had with every other brand/type tire. High speeds are a treat. The launch is much improved with these too.

The price of the tires has been worth it to me.

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Bobcat 05-19-2010 04:37 PM

Eljaro... you have the same size Avons on yours that I do on mine , and the same size engine . It takes mine a few miles to get some heat in them and then they are great . Just curious , what tire pressures did you run during your "scenic trip " up the mountain ?
Silverback , you won`t be sorry with the Avons .

1985 CCX 05-19-2010 05:54 PM

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...ighlight=Avons

Dave loves them........

Chilibit 05-19-2010 06:17 PM

I agree with the other comments but no one talks about one of the main reasons I like them. Braking.

I would like to hear someone compare the MT Sportsman S/R against the AVONs. Someone who has worn out a set of each.

A set of AVONs is looking like they might last 4 months. Without track days. I like to drive. So they are expensive for me. AVIDs are no more. They were good tires if you want to practice for ice racing in the summer.

I don't care for the tread pattern on the S/Rs but I cannot see it from the driver's seat. So maybe for half the price. I hear they are sourced from AVON by MT.

SPF1061 05-19-2010 10:02 PM

Chilibit,
You will need to do a LOT of driving to wear a set of Avons out in 4 months.
I'm on my third set. I got right at 8000 miles out of each of the first two sets (including 3 or 4 track events per set). It would be VERY hard to go back to ANY other street legal tire after Avons.

Chilibit 05-19-2010 10:57 PM

I certainly agree with not wanting to contemplate anything else. Four months, 80 days of driving, 100 miles per day. Not so many if you have time. I am pretty easy on tires, perhaps I will surprise myself.

Eljaro 05-20-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcat (Post 1052026)
Eljaro... you have the same size Avons on yours that I do on mine , and the same size engine . It takes mine a few miles to get some heat in them and then they are great . Just curious , what tire pressures did you run during your "scenic trip " up the mountain ?
Silverback , you won`t be sorry with the Avons .

26 psi front and back

SPF1061 05-20-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilibit (Post 1052101)
I certainly agree with not wanting to contemplate anything else. Four months, 80 days of driving, 100 miles per day. Not so many if you have time. I am pretty easy on tires, perhaps I will surprise myself.

Chilibit,
How long have you had your car and how many miles are on it? You know your driving habits better than I, but I would be very surprised if a set of Avon's don't last you a season, especially if you are easy on tires. There is nothing easy about my street driving style, on track road racing and drag racing fun, and I am getting 8k miles. 10k miles on a set that is not put to the test so much seems completely possible to me. Anyway, if you get a set, let us know you like them and how long they last. Have fun. ;)

Chilibit 05-20-2010 07:50 AM

Four years. Mileage, my speedo is broken. I use a vibration monitor to measure running hours. Sorta diesel-like. But I have a fair notion. I am extrapolating from anecdotal information. When we boil away the chaff, the underlying message was simply that the durability of these tires is commensurate with the grip. And, I like the way they stop. In the autumn, I will know more.

speed220mph 05-20-2010 07:58 AM

Although I put them on the GT40--C6RZZ 225/65R 15 and 296/50R 15--they are the best DOT approved tires I've ever used on track. Except for rain due to minimum tread depth, which I don't drive in, they are great on the street, too. Very pricey, but the Avons stick. Like any race tire, warning as the limt is approached is less, but you're really pulling some g at the time!

SPF1061 05-20-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilibit (Post 1052175)
When we boil away the chaff, the underlying message was simply that the durability of these tires is commensurate with the grip.

Understood...and I didn't mean to seem argumentative. My main point was that I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised at the "good" mileage you will get from a tire this sticky. Carry on. :)

Chilibit 05-20-2010 08:41 AM

SPF1061,

Well put. Your experience far exceeds my own. That would certainly be a bonus for an already superlative tire. Gotta go, the sun is shining and the roads are dry.

Ciao

Silverback51 05-24-2010 05:26 PM

Well everyone, thank you for your input.

Tires are ordered and will be here this weekend.:) Now if the weather would ever clear up in this festering crap hole.:mad:

Great Asp 05-24-2010 08:36 PM

you'll love em!

GL Silver!

E


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