| patrickt |
11-02-2010 09:28 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
(Post 1087272)
I am convinced ... that many of these shifting problems are somehow related to bellhousing alignment.
|
That makes sense. Places like Liberty and Astro only charge a couple of hundred bucks for their different ProShift/SureShift/FacePlating jobs. You would think if it was that great that Tremec would do it right out of the factory. I don't know what Brent charges for a SureShift job, but I would bet it's not more than about $75 per gear. |
| blykins |
11-02-2010 10:36 AM |
Little less than that.
The majority of the work is done to the gear cones as the machined finish there will vary just due to manufacturing processes.
|
| RodKnock |
11-02-2010 10:39 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
(Post 1087272)
I am convinced (based on the sampling results taken from exactly ONE TKO installation in my life in my Cobra) that many of these shifting problems are somehow related to bellhousing alignment.
|
El, I think you hit the nail on the head. If I remember correctly, the Tremec paperwork states less than .005 runout. |
| patrickt |
11-02-2010 10:51 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
(Post 1087287)
Little less than that.
The majority of the work is done to the gear cones as the machined finish there will vary just due to manufacturing processes.
|
See? That just doesn't make sense to me. If you can fix something, or just make it significantly better, for less than $75 a gear I don't know why it just doesn't come that way from the factory. And you don't even do all the gears anyway. %/ |
| blykins |
11-02-2010 10:54 AM |
Because that's an added cost that may not be deemed cost effective if everyone is shifting at lower rpms....
Most high quantity engine rebuilders only bore the cylinders that need it and stick oversize pistons in just a few holes instead of all of them. By your line of thinking, they should take the extra time/cost and do it right.......right? It may not be cost effective.
Plus Tremec boxes are hecho en Mexico.
|
| Excaliber |
11-02-2010 11:00 AM |
Maybe I just got "lucky" with mine and the typical variations that can occur with a manufactured product. Some items just come out better than others.
From time to time I see comments about certain additives to the TKO trans oil, or maybe I'm just confused? I used the recommended trans oil with no additional additives.
One other note on my setup. I did order a bronze pilot bushing but determined that my existing bearing based pilot would be adequate, perhaps better. So I left it in place. Anyone want to buy a bronze pilot bushing? :)
|
| RodKnock |
11-02-2010 11:07 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
(Post 1087292)
Because that's an added cost that may not be deemed cost effective if everyone is shifting at lower rpms....
Most high quantity engine rebuilders only bore the cylinders that need it and stick oversize pistons in just a few holes instead of all of them. By your line of thinking, they should take the extra time/cost and do it right.......right? It may not be cost effective.
Plus Tremec boxes are hecho en Mexico.
|
This isn't any different than a trillion other products on the market.
Brent, I'm curious. Does the "SureShift" upgrade originate from the manufacturer, such as a factory bulletin, or from some enthusiast/aftermarket company racer who developed it over the years? |
| patrickt |
11-02-2010 11:11 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1087296)
Brent, I'm curious. Does the "SureShift" upgrade originate from the manufacturer, such as a factory bulletin, or from some enthusiast/aftermarket company racer who developed it over the years?
|
That's probably the best question you've asked all year.:cool: |
| blykins |
11-02-2010 11:19 AM |
Not from the manufacturer.
Doing these upgrades is nothing new for companies that want to add more performance to a transmission. It's common for Toploaders, T-5's, T-56's, etc. Just a normal progression of "making things better." I suppose it's the same line of thinking of buying a new crate engine and jabbing a new cam in it or adding a new intake to it. Just improving what needs improved.
|
| RodKnock |
11-02-2010 11:44 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1087297)
That's probably the best question you've asked all year.:cool:
|
Well, that would be high praise, if it came from ERAChas. Not so much from you. :LOL: |
| patrickt |
11-02-2010 12:13 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1087304)
Well, that would be high praise, if it came from ERAChas. Not so much from you. :LOL:
|
Well, it actually was a compliment.;) You jumped immediately on the issue of whether the process was remedying a recognized ill, or rather if it was just a $75 "tweak" which would no doubt still be offerred, albeit in a different form, even if Tremec did that exact procedure before shipping them out. I think I'm more on board with ElM in that the centering of the BH, and the importance of a judicious initial break-in, are what really is at play here.:cool: |
| blykins |
11-02-2010 12:15 PM |
I think I would have to disagree with that.
|
| All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:02 AM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link:
