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Old 10-20-2008, 05:52 PM
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I'll make it real simple..... take Carroll Shelby out of existance, and you have no Cobra.

Pretty simple to me.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:57 PM
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Uh-oh. Sal, does that mean that when Shelby goes to meet his maker all of our Cobras will vaporize? That doesn't sound fair.
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Uh-oh. Sal, does that mean that when Shelby goes to meet his maker all of our Cobras will vaporize? That doesn't sound fair.
LOL, not quite what I mean Ned . I meant if Carroll never existed, the Cobra wouldn't either. Regardless of other people and companies involved, the Cobra exists because of Carroll.
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take Carroll Shelby out of existance, and you have no Cobra.
I think quite a few names could be added to that list...
The Hurlocks, John Tojeiro, Alan Turner, Henry Ford II, Holman and Moody, Enzo Ferrari, Don Sullivan, Dean Moon, etc.
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I think quite a few names could be added to that list...
The Hurlocks, John Tojeiro, Alan Turner, Henry Ford II, Holman and Moody, Enzo Ferrari, Don Sullivan, Dean Moon, etc.
I disagree, Tom. While those people were involved with what actually became the Cobra as we know it, without Carroll's idea, there is no car. Without those people, Carroll just finds someone else to make his dream come true. His idea was American V8 in a well handling roadster. It wasn't Ford V8 in an AC Ace. That's just were the idea wound up.

It still comes down to no Carroll = no Cobra. There is no one other person involved that the same could be said for.
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His idea was American V8 in a well handling roadster.
Well "his idea" was also done by...
Cad Allard j2X, Scagletti Corvette, Corvace (AC Ace w/Chevy), Cunningham Specials, Reventlow's Scarab, Max Balchowsky's Old Yeller, Ak Miller’s Caballo de Hierro, all of these cars predate the Cobra and, no doubt, were an inspiration for the Cobra.

Lets face it, we all owe Enzo Ferrari a debt of gratitude. If Ferrari had not thumbed his nose at Ford, Ford would have owned Ferrari and there would have been absolutely no reason for Ford to invest in CS and the Cobra. With out Ford's money CS didn't have a chance to build more than a handful of cars. Look multi-millionaires like Cunningham and Reventlow couldn't pull it off. Who else other than Ford would or could have invested so much? Remember CS had all ready tried GM with the Scaglietti Corvette. They only built three. GM was not about to help anything compete with the Corvette.

"Without those people, Carroll just finds someone else to make his dream come true." Who???
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Carroll's first try at a 'Cobra'. One of three '59 Scaglietti Corvettes.

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Anyone want to see what CS said about it? Dave MacDonald had a big influence on construction of the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe - Racing Legend Dave MacDonald, images, videos, Shelby Cobra, Corvette, Indianapolis 500 NASCAR, Dave MacDonald Cobra Daytona Coupe with Pete Brock
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[quote=Power Surge;Pretty simple to me.[/QUOTE]

Even simpler-take the people CS hired out of existance-you have no Cobra either as it would have just been an idea with no-one to execute it.The Chicken $hit farmer gets wayyyyyyy too much credit.
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I'll make it real simple..... take Carroll Shelby out of existance, and you have no Cobra.
Pretty simple to me.

Amen!
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