What's so good about Hurricane Cobras? - Page 2

gsharapa · #1 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 08:50 AM

I'll comment on the small block stroker 427W vs FE 427. Performance wise the small block is awesome and could give the FE a run for it's money on the track and in most cases cost less to build. Most of the Cobra wins in the 60s were small blocks as by time Carroll got around to putting 427s in the cars they moved to the Daytona Coupes and GT40s. I have bin one of the biggest small block promoters over the years but have to admitt the FE does looks better in the car. Like every thing on these cars it comes down to personal preference which is what is neat about Cobras today vs the the past. Build it the way you want it as it is yours to enjoy! I'm still on the fence myself but pretty sure my new Hurricane (HM2003) will have a FE in it...

patrickt · #2 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 09:41 AM

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I'll comment on the small block stroker 427W vs FE 427. Performance wise the small block is awesome and could give the FE a run for it's money on the track and in most cases cost less to build.

Absolutely 100% true on cost and performance -- I won't take issue with that in the least. But, for a lot of us, when we see a really beautiful 427 car on the outside, the lines are just right, interior beautiful, wheels just like we want, and then we peek in the engine compartment and see a small block we just say "Aww, man... what a shame." But, just because I wouldn't have it in mine, doesn't mean you wouldn't, or shouldn't, have it in yours (kind of like dual roll bars). Just remember, it has been written here time and time again, no one on this forum has ever voluntarily switched from an FE back to a small block (mechanical difficulties don't count

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fastraxsg · #3 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 09:52 AM

If you want to wade through a gallery here, you can find a couple of bare chassis shots of the Hurricane chassis set up for a Ford 9". Click on the little camera on the top left side of this post and flip through the pages.
As for the soft top, originally there was a soft top offered from an outside vendor but no longer available but Hurricane has made at least two hard tops in house and I bought one, there is a mock up of HM1081 shown in the gallery with the hardtop on the body.
No news that I have heard of re. if they will come up with a vendor in the future though at least one owner has fabricated one for his.
I also have in progress photos of my build here 'cause we're still building....
ken

patrickt · #4 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 10:00 AM

Didn't somebody write that the new Hurricane's were coming out with fully independent Dana 44 limited slip rears? I may have imagined that....

DrivinWest · #5 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 10:13 AM

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If you want to wade through a gallery here, you can find a couple of bare chassis shots of the Hurricane chassis set up for a Ford 9". Click on the little camera on the top left side of this post and flip through the pages.

Will do - many thanks!

I played around with the interactive 3D model on their website. Very cool. Here's a few snapshots for those who haven't seen it:

Seems pretty well constructed. I'd love to see one in person.

patrickt · #6 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 11:33 AM

I see from their site that the IRS+Limited Slip upgrade is indeed available. It's $4000 and uses a Ford 8.8 http://www.hurricane-motorsports.com...suspension.asp IMHO, an IRS+LS is an absolute must-have; in these cars it really comes down as being a safety feature.

I did not see a true pin-drive option, though.

dlampe · #7 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 12:59 PM

Patrick, do you mean "true pin drive" like the six pin Kirkham or the Vintage pin drive adaptors? It comes standard with the vintage knock off wheels.

patrickt · #8 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 01:16 PM

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Patrick, do you mean "true pin drive" like the six pin Kirkham or the Vintage pin drive adaptors? It comes standard with the vintage knock off wheels.

"True," as in meaning no adaptors, and six pins. As in my ERA system below. If they're going to be sticklers for accuracy, I think they should consider it.

dlampe · #9 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 08:59 AM

Look at the 2x2 vertical support for the dash. It has been reshaped. That will be hard to change. The footbox has been widened a little but that is a mold change. I'm not sure there is much you can do.

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Will do - many thanks!

I played around with the interactive 3D model on their website. Very cool. Here's a few snapshots for those who haven't seen it:

Seems pretty well constructed. I'd love to see one in person.

fastraxsg · #10 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 09:57 AM

sorry,double post...thought I lost the first one.

66gt-Norway · #11 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 02:49 PM

Era vs hurricane, the price on the cit is almoust the same ?

patrickt · #12 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 02:51 PM

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Era vs hurricane, the price on the cit is almoust the same ?

No, Hurricanes will cost you less.

dlampe · #13 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Patricks post seem to be in line. (this time)

The pedals are already floor mount on the new Hurricane. The six pin wheels might be a possibility but I don't think it was ever discussed. The Hurricane guys should be happy to be compared to the likes of ERA and Kirkham. These are the leaders in the hobby. I really believe all three can do most anything you request if you have the cash.

Good point on the RHD from Hurricane. I forgot about that car.

patrickt · #14 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 03:26 PM

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The pedals are already floor mount on the new Hurricane. The six pin wheels might be a possibility but I don't think it was ever discussed. The Hurricane guys should be happy to be compared to the likes of ERA and Kirkham. These are the leaders in the hobby. I really believe all three can do most anything you request if you have the cash.

Good point on the RHD from Hurricane. I forgot about that car.

I thought they were floor mounted -- I remembered your post from late last year when you placed your order and you mentioned they were -- I was impressed with that. It doesn't make the car go faster, or better, and you wouldn't even notice it unless you stuck your head in the car and looked for it... but I think it's a huge deal. Probably bigger than making it RHD! The only real fab work for RHD was the foot boxes, if I recall correctly.

dlampe · #15 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 03:39 PM

Your right, it is a bigger deal than RHD. You don't just buy something off the shelf. I think it is the little detail stuff that is the most important. That is what makes a car worth more to me. That's why I chose the Hurricane and the fact that it was a little cheaper.

Bill Bess · #16 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 07:05 AM

I think I missed something here, I must be kind of dumb. What is the deal with floor mounted pedals? is it just being authentic? or does it work better than overhead mounded pedals?
I do like the fact that I can stretch my leg out under the Wilwood pedals while on long drives but other than that....please enlighten me.
Bill

dlampe · #17 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 07:31 AM

Bill, I'm sure there is no difference in performance. The Willwood pedals I had in my Huricane worked great. It is just an originality thing. I think they can still do it both ways. What is really nice is the room in the new foot box. There is room for a dead pedal next to the clutch.

patrickt · #18 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 08:35 AM

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Bill, I'm sure there is no difference in performance. The Willwood pedals I had in my Huricane worked great. It is just an originality thing. I think they can still do it both ways. What is really nice is the room in the new foot box. There is room for a dead pedal next to the clutch.

The only advantage that I can think of (and it might not even be an advantage at that) is that I had the pedal mounts fabbed to spread them apart a bit more, because of my size 12EEE feet. You can see the bars that the pedals sit on are angled over a bit more and you can see the room I have. It does well for me if I wear the right shoes (which I always do); nothing special, just Nike "Free" shoes. This pic also shows the room in the footbox.

patrickt · #19 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 08:46 AM

And the Kirkham pedals, for comparison:

ratsnst1 · #20 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 09:10 AM

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The only advantage that I can think of (and it might not even be an advantage at that) is that I had the pedal mounts fabbed to spread them apart a bit more, because of my size 12EEE feet. You can see the bars that the pedals sit on are angled over a bit more and you can see the room I have. It does well for me if I wear the right shoes (which I always do); nothing special, just Nike "Free" shoes. This pic also shows the room in the footbox.

I like the way you widened out your pedals, I did the same, I also changed the clutch master cylinder to one that makes for a shorter throw as well, I have long legs and big feet.