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If you will search "looking for Steve Arntz" on this forum, you can see a picture of a VSE chassis in Post #52.
If you look over the entire post, you will find some conversation about the VSE chassis.
At least one of the cars Herb Adams built has a Butler body on it and that is the picture in Post #52. Don't know about the second car. Ron Butler may know the answer and so may Jason, n6opv, on this forum. You can see his response in Post #51.
Hope this helps
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