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Originally Posted by blykins
Exactly...
When you equalize the displacement you'll see that the Ford would be almost 70 hp over the Chevy.
Now try and explain to me how superior the LS engine is.
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I'm still waiting for you to point out Ford's equivalent performance engine platform (let alone Ford's superior one)-
If you want to call out the Coyote platform, then I won't argue, except to say: "Time will tell", and/or "I guess 18 years was a long enough head start for Ford to give GM"
You're entire argument has been "Pro engine builders like me understand things that imbeciles like you don't..." You're a custom engine builder who prefers Fords - I get that, and I also get that there are successful race teams out there running engines based on a whole myriad of design platforms.
But shops like Lingenfelter and MTI Motorsports were out there building 600HP NA LS engines (Using factory GM cranks and connecting rods) for a decade, while all Ford was doing was fighting to get out of honoring warranty claims against its crappy modular V8, Which the Mustang tuner crowd was out there blowing up left and right...
I consider the LS to be a superior engine platform simply because LS engines are proven to handle the abuse (even the excessive abuse dished out by 20-something, FastandFurious wannabe's) and they are capable of producing 100%+ VE without any significant degradation in engine longevity or durability. And they've been doing this since 1997 (nearly 20 years).
Ford does not have a modern engine platform that can match that track-record (unless you can point it out to me)
If HP/displacement is the governing factor on what makes a "superior" engine, then I guess the 4.6 Modular V8 is/was not only better than the LS, but is also better than the FE or the Windsor before it... right?
If so, then why are there so many windowed 4.6 liter Fords sitting in junkyards, compared to so few LS1's... ?
Now, we could continue to volley this little yellow ball back and forth, but it would only serve to entertain everyone else on ClubCobra... You are unlikely to change my mind, because you lost me at "LS heads are based on Cleveland heads", and "LS heads will bolt directly onto a Windsor block" - neither of which is technically (nor historically) accurate...
Besides, we're talking about OHC versus pushrod engines here - If we want to level the field, then like you said earlier- we should compare apples to apples...
But it's been fun...
