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				06-28-2013, 01:52 PM
			
			
			
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					Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PHILADELPHIA, 
						PA Cobra Make, Engine: ANTIQUE AND COLLECTABLEFORD 460 
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				 460 Backfire out exhaust 
 Hello all! Its been a while but I'm back on the Cobra track. I have a  mild 460 build, stock bottom end with late model dove heads 9:1 comp. rollers rockers, edelbrock performer intake, 750 edelbrock carb. Mallory hi fire box and distributor Cam : Intake 479 Exhaust 504 duration 270 intake 280 exhaust. Its smooth and strong all the way through the RPMS and when I let off the gas around 5500-6000 rpm it sounds like shotguns going off on either side of the side pipes. I adjusted the valves last night and its doing the same thing. Only seems to do it when its running around 195- 200 degrees. Could it be a breakdown in wires or over am I over reving motor. Oh and how much horse power do you think I am making?
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				06-28-2013, 02:55 PM
			
			
			
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 Hi Vincent , Dave in Uk, 6k is right on the limit of that combo I would think, what valve springs you running? probably getting valve float causing you some issues, should be around 400 hp, give or take.  Dave |  
	
		
	
	
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				06-28-2013, 03:01 PM
			
			
			
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						GA Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI 
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 I'd bet on header/collector gaskets.  It's a fairly common issue with Cobras.  Check your header gaskets and where your headers connect to the intermediate pipes.  If air can get in either of those places back-firing on decel will occur.
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				06-28-2013, 04:22 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by lovehamr  I'd bet on header/collector gaskets.  It's a fairly common issue with Cobras.  Check your header gaskets and where your headers connect to the intermediate pipes.  If air can get in either of those places back-firing on decel will occur.
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it doesn't take much of a leak either........and you may even get "some" popping on decel at high rpms without an exhaust leak,the engine is not under a load, basically "coasting" and the fuel is not  all burnt as when under a load, so some unburnt fuel will go thru the hot exhaust,burning in the side pipes, causing the popping.......
 
HP wise guessing 400 to 450 with a lot more torque......
 
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				06-28-2013, 05:03 PM
			
			
			
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						CA Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body 
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 Exhaust manifold gasket. Mine did the very same thing |  
	
		
	
	
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				06-28-2013, 05:22 PM
			
			
			
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 How do I seal the headers to the side pipes? They are slip on? |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by VINCENT RUDI  How do I seal the headers to the side pipes? They are slip on? |  Hi Vincent,
 
You probably don't remember me - I looked at your car a couple of years ago when I got the Cobra bug but ultimately decided to do my own build.  Anyway, my car is also slip fit and the recommendation was to use Walker's Acousti-seal #35959.  It is available at most parts stores - I got it at Pep Boys.  Wear rubber gloves when you use it - it's like tar.
 
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Kevin
 
Edit:  Just noticed that Vincent's inquiries are from last June...old thread.
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				06-28-2013, 05:20 PM
			
			
			
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 I just had my hands in it about 10 min ago. I am noticing arching at the front of the motor the same time the back firing happens and its not all the time. I adjusted the timing reved the motor up and it was fine not backfire. After it heated up some more I seen the arching and popping again. I am running a Mallory 6al box with high fire coil but I have a set of 8 mm ford racing wires from summit. Is it possible the wires laying on the motor are breaking down from the heat and causing problems???? |  
	
		
	
	
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				01-04-2014, 06:29 PM
			
			
			
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						MN Cobra Make, Engine: 67 Shell Valley - Kevlar; 514:TKO 
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 I frankly love the popping.  Especially in the dark.  It's totally bad ass.  I see fire out the exhaust all the time on most al sorts of race cars - drag, Indy, etc ...  Why not just enjoy it?.... |  
	
		
	
	
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				01-05-2014, 12:28 PM
			
			
			
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 Popping under deceleration [no load] is usually lean carb condition or exhaust gaskets.Ignition usually acts up under load.
 When I was playing with jets one day I went just a hair too lean and I started getting the snap crackle pop.   It does sound cool though.
 
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 The header fit on the 460 pipes from A&C are terrible. Leak big time. I have to use muffler sealer once a year. I'm cutting them off and putting flanges and gaskets as soon as I get a chance. When they are sealed, it sounds awesome and absolutely no back fire. Sometimes the flames are cool at night.Mike
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 The flames are pretty eye-catching at night.  I took my son out for a spin one evening and, on an abrupt deceleration, startled him with a 6-footer.  I could see it from the driver's seat.  Since then, I've sized the pipe more accurately at the slip joint and now use Permatex copper at the joint.  Problem solved. 
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