Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > 429/460 Engine Talk

Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2009, 07:44 PM
DocDirk's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Merced, Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast-Ford Performance Solutions 533 BB
Posts: 390
Not Ranked     
Question Secondary School Question

I'm driving a BB 533 Ford engine with an 850 annular Might Demon carb, and I understand more astrophysics than I do about carburetors. It's been suggested my carb has mechanical secondaries and the car would perform better on the street with vacuum secondaries.

Would you please educate me on the advantages/disadvantages of one over the other in my or any other application?

Thanks!

Dirk
__________________
The government giveth and the government taketh away..... if our rights are not God given then they're subject to revision!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2009, 08:14 PM
Barnsnake's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Parker County, Tx
Cobra Make, Engine: LoneStar LS427 , 427 Windsor
Posts: 381
Not Ranked     
Default

With mechanical secondaries the amount that the secondaries open is controlled by your right foot.

With vacuum secondaries your right foot controls the ability for the secondaries to open, but their actual opening is controlled by a vacuum diaphragm. The diaphragm is "reading" the manifold vacuum and opening the secondaries as the engine "needs" the additional breathing capacity.

With mechanical secondaries and large carburetors it is possible to get a situation in which you have so much throttle opening that the velocity through the venturis drops so low the carburetor cannot meter properly. The vacuum secondary system addresses this issue.

The most common symptom of this problem is when you stomp the throttle at relatively low RPM and the motor bogs due to a lean condition, but if you stomp it at higher RPM it pulls fine. It can be addressed (to a degree) with a larger accelerator pump squirt, but that's not always enough.

Do you need to change? That depends.
Do you experience the problem described above? You have a lot of motor, but the cam profile and intake manifold design can have a bearing on how much breathing capacity the motor has at lower revs.

I hope this clarifies the situation a bit.

Jim
__________________
Jim
------------
A Gnat! Quick, get a sledgehammer!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink