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04-30-2010, 06:09 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: St. Charles,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKII - 460 Crate with Cobra Jet heads, 750 Quick Fuel Carb, and Edelbrock Torker II Intake port matched to heads
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Received this from the AC Owners Club in England:
The ACOC Cobra registrar's opinion is as follows:
"This car was not built by AC. It will have started life as an AC428 Frua, with a car number anywhere between 6 & 26, prefix CF (RHD) or CFX (LHD). A number of these have been turned into replica cobras, as listed in the Appendix to the ACOC Cobra register, including car numbers 19 & 23."
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Bryan Moseley
ACOC Webmaster
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04-30-2010, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
Posts: 3,044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleVenom
Received this from the AC Owners Club in England:
The ACOC Cobra registrar's opinion is as follows:
"This car was not built by AC. It will have started life as an AC428 Frua, with a car number anywhere between 6 & 26, prefix CF (RHD) or CFX (LHD). A number of these have been turned into replica cobras, as listed in the Appendix to the ACOC Cobra register, including car numbers 19 & 23."
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Bryan Moseley
ACOC Webmaster
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Now the 96" wheel base makes sense.
Steve
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04-30-2010, 07:16 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
Posts: 1,572
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Robin Stainer, the ACOC Registrar, is correct in saying that the car was not built by AC. The chassis itself was, but we both believe it started out as a 96" piece, and was cut down 6" for use as the basis of a Cobra-like vehicle. (I can't say for certain until I get back to CA and check the MX 1 file folder.) The finished car was constructed by Brian Angliss of AutoKraft, who later took over the remains of the former AC Cars, Ltd. To the extent that Angliss' shop was the successor entity to the Hurlock brothers company, one is technically correct in asserting that the car was "built by the AC Cars factory" but it is stretching the truth not to add the date and ownership caveats.
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04-30-2010, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: St. Charles,
MO
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKII - 460 Crate with Cobra Jet heads, 750 Quick Fuel Carb, and Edelbrock Torker II Intake port matched to heads
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Great info Ned. Still, kind of a historical piece though, isn't it? Value, well, whatever the buyer is willing to pay for it I guess. 
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05-01-2010, 08:49 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anglesey,
UK
Cobra Make, Engine: Hawk 289FiA with Le Mans hardtop. AC CS(X)2131,289 (my father owned it from `67-`73)
Posts: 1,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedsel
...it is stretching the truth not to add the date and ownership caveats.
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From the seller:
Hi Nik, The 96" was a typo, so 90" is correct. The sticker behind the Turkey Pan is from Cobra Restorers in Georgia. We'll have the suspension photos on our Fastlane Cars website on Monday. We will scan those letters and add those to the website too. Please look by Monday or Tuesday for the updates. Thanks, Joe
Just to muddy the waters a little more, I think the(MkIII) chassis in Trevor Legate`s book is a different one to the
Earl`s Court Motorshow 428 chassis, as seen here on the AC Heritage Website

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05-01-2010, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,336
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Originally Posted by nikbj68
Just to muddy the waters a little more, I think the(MkIII) chassis in Trevor Legate`s book is a different one to the
Earl`s Court Motorshow 428 chassis, as seen here on the AC Heritage Website

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Well that's certainly not an aluminum Cobra body!
And it appears to have some cooling holes cut into the cloth parts.
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05-01-2010, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
Posts: 3,787
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Headlights are pointing in the wrong direction.
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05-01-2010, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anglesey,
UK
Cobra Make, Engine: Hawk 289FiA with Le Mans hardtop. AC CS(X)2131,289 (my father owned it from `67-`73)
Posts: 1,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Well that's certainly not an aluminum Cobra body!
And it appears to have some cooling holes cut into the cloth parts.
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Cunningly designed to match the strengthening plates in the suspension?
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Headlights are pointing in the wrong direction.
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I`ll bet you wouldn`t say that if you were sat at the wheel!
(oh, hang on, there isn`t one, LOL!)
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05-01-2010, 02:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 4,566
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Early design airbags..........................
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05-01-2010, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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SDR: Thanks.
Thats a pretty racy photo op ad for an otherwise stodgy English company. I like it though. 
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