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Old 07-11-2020, 11:47 AM
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This car could be a good deal at the lower end of the price range. There's simply too many unknowns. The fact that it is undriven is scary. Sure, I can imagine someone thinking this is a collector item and just parking it to look at it. But the history of the builder seems to be hit and miss, so you could be getting into a hornets nest.

I'd call it a crap shoot rather than a smokin' deal good thing.
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it definitely is a crap shoot. i would like to find out who the owner is, not to circumvent mecums but just to get the history. i was actually looking for an ACR Extreme and then this thing popped up. cobra has always been on my wish list, but they all have such individual builds with little continuity they are always a complicated process to buy. i in no way view these as investment cars BTW
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it definitely is a crap shoot. i would like to find out who the owner is, not to circumvent mecums but just to get the history. i was actually looking for an ACR Extreme and then this thing popped up. cobra has always been on my wish list, but they all have such individual builds with little continuity they are always a complicated process to buy. i in no way view these as investment cars BTW
The "investment" status of even the originals is questionable. Their values have plateaued. If you spend $1M on an original, you're not going to compound your investment to 2M in 7 years (or whatever the rule of 78s says). You're better off investing in the stock market.

The same is true of replicas - they are not investments. However, the reality is that some hold their value against current products. Shelby CSX, Kirkham and to some degree, properly built Superformances while they don't appreciate, do hold their value. They'll never be more valuable than a new one but you can buy it, drive it for 5 years and sell it for the same value. That's only happened to me with three vehicles: The Cobra (which I sold for a wash), the Ford GT (in essence a wash), and believe it or not, a 1995 Case 1845C which i used for 10 years and sold for the same as I bought it.
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agreed, nothing that wasn't limited production will increase in value. cars, no cars are a good financial investment. buy them for fun and expect to take a bath. for me i usually don't sell i just expand the garage.
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The "investment" status of even the originals is questionable. Their values have plateaued. If you spend $1M on an original, you're not going to compound your investment to 2M in 7 years (or whatever the rule of 78s says). You're better off investing in the stock market.

The same is true of replicas - they are not investments. However, the reality is that some hold their value against current products. Shelby CSX, Kirkham and to some degree, properly built Superformances while they don't appreciate, do hold their value. They'll never be more valuable than a new one but you can buy it, drive it for 5 years and sell it for the same value. That's only happened to me with three vehicles: The Cobra (which I sold for a wash), the Ford GT (in essence a wash), and believe it or not, a 1995 Case 1845C which i used for 10 years and sold for the same as I bought it.
agreed but dont forget about ERA, I owned 626 for 17 years and almost broke even when I sold it...probably could have but I sold it to a friend.
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i was actually looking for an ACR Extreme and then this thing popped up. cobra has always been on my wish list, but they all have such individual builds with little continuity they are always a complicated process to buy. i in no way view these as investment cars BTW
Well, I've owned several vipers (older ones), and they are fantastic cars. Some were more civilized than others. You really need to own both, a cobra and a viper !!

From my understanding, most CSX's came with 3.54 rear gears, although you could have custom gears ordered. Whether it's a toploader, or a tremec, you will be OK. Toploader is fine for driving, with the 3.54's, unless you are planning on using it as your everyday work vehicle, driving 30,000 miles year, traveling. It will be the same as your challenger.
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