My pics are to large to attach..Anyone know an easy way I can send them?
|
Quote:
|
Judging from the replies, glad you asked just for an 'opinion.'
I saw your car being built when I ordered mine a few years ago and was very impressed; it is a beauty. Contrary to an early post, you have a unique car in it is a factory built Genuine AC Shelby Cobra. This alone will add value as very few Cobra 427s leave Vegas as complete cars. Add the Shelby title history, the limited number of AC metal bodies, and you have more than a 4000 series car. I do remember is looking at an AC body next to a Kirkham body. Hands down the AC body was superior. The welds and metal smoothness was noticeably better. The price from Allan A for $165 sounds reasonable given the facts outlined above. As a point of reference, there is a metal CSX on CC for $129. You could always put it on EBay with a reserve to see what happens. Good luck. |
Quote:
Personally, I think all the value comments are fairly spot on in my opinion, with the only exception being the current economic problems in an election year. While I would think the car would approach the $200K mark in better times, it's a buyer's market and there are very few of them out there right now. Timing is everything. |
Thanks put Buck pics on my gallery
Quote:
Thanks |
Quote:
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...dium/ac001.jpg I think we'll need Ned or Trevor to explain what a "289 S/C" is. |
Quote:
Once you have the pictures in your gallery, you can copy the text in the box that says "Medium URL" into your post. Here are pictures of the bucks from your gallery: http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...obra_buck2.JPG http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...obra_buck3.JPG The bucks do look old. But that is no guarantee that they are original. Old looking bucks could have been created by Brian Angliss in the 1970's. And the current owner of AC, Alan Lubinsky probably has no idea if they are original or not. But I'm sure that did not stop him from making that claim. |
Quote:
I might be missing your point.... what does bucks in 1977 have to do with when this car was made? And my guess on the 289 S/C would be a misused name for the AC Sports 289. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
I am sure once Ron, Trev, or some of the other Cobra smarts see those pics, they will know if they are the original bucks or not. Just going off my memory of seeing pics in the past, they don't look like them to me. |
Quote:
You can put the images in your gallery, then when you view them large it will give you the URL which you can come back and use as link. Nice car. I'd sure like to have one like it. |
Trevor,
I hope you don't mind me scanning a picture from your book... Here is the Brian Angliss AC MkIV body bucks. The one on the left does look significantly different than the pictures from Gary's gallery. I don't think the buck on the right looks like the one from Gary's pictures either. http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...dium/ac002.jpg However the AC MkIV body is different than the 427 Cobra body, so a new buck would have been made just for the AC MkIV body. The assumption is that the pictures in Gary's gallery are of a Brian Angliss replacement buck from the 1970s. It is interesting to note that AC MkIV buck built by Brian in the 1980s looks significantly different, but that does not prove anything. |
Bucks
Quote:
Angliss did employ some of the workers from the Cobra line in the 60's, but over the years many/most retired or passed away. I know the guy who did the upholstery work at Autokraft/AC for many years and even he only started working at AC I recall in the 70's (before joining Angliss). Even if some of them came in after the Cobra period of the 60's, many of Angliss' employees, however, did "cut their teeth" at AC and the skills were transferred along even at Autokraft, so whatever techniques were used to make the original cars were carried over for some period of time. It seems to me that any car like CSX1001 that originates from suppliers closer to the original scenario has to be worth more than one made all in California (or Africa or where ever the parts have recently been made). |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Here's a similar scenario.... Backdraft Coupe vs SPF Coupe. Both priced very similarly, yet the SPF Coupe was actually designed by Peter Brock. Not inspired by Brock, or endorsed by Brock, but actually designed by him. And yet there's no added "dollar value" from that over other similar quality Coupes. If that makes sense to you, that's the point I am making on the CSX1000 deal. |
Quote:
Can I email it to someone who knows how to get it in where people can see it?? Thanks |
Morning all
The first image shows the 289 nose buck, which I'm told is original. I have been told that Angliss had to make his own bucks when he was trading as CP Autokraft in the early 70s. He then made a whole 427 from scratch just to see if he could. Why the 289 was kept and not the 427 is anyones guess! As for the AC ali panels being 'better' than the Kirkham...wellll, hmm, depends on how you interpret 'better'. I can assure you my 427 (from the AC bucks of whatever vintage) required a whole lot more body filler to iron out the dips & bumps. The paint shop have sprayed circa 3 AC bodies and 5 Kirkhams - they love the Kirkhams as they require minimal prep work. Nice and smooth like a babys bumper. The AC bodies require hours and hours - and hours...they tell me! |
Quote:
The coupe thing is not exactly the same, as neither the Brock coupe or the BDR coupe are identical to the originals in design/construction, which I believe detracts from the value for some, maybe alot, of the consumers, where as the CSX1000 car is identical in construction to the original, as are the alum Csx4000's and kirkhams. |
Quote:
That was also my understanding from someone who has painted numerous "original" Cobras for Frank Sytner. To quote him, "..they are more filler than metal." That might be a little harsh, but you get the idea. ;) Paul |
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:03 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: