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11-04-2009, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Originally Posted by Got the Bug
I take it that your car is now safely stored in its "sleeping bag." Man, it's going to be long winter.   |
Not yet. I'm hoping to get a few more weeks before I put her to bed for the winter. |
11-04-2009, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MIDLOTHIAN,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BACKDRAFT
Posts: 228
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Originally Posted by Rickd
Backdraft made in America? When did they relocate their factory from South Africa?
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Good question..
I am hoping for an answer,,,
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11-04-2009, 05:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,763
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Originally Posted by Way2Fast
Of these two companies, what is the general opinion as to which one makes the best vehicle? It seems that the SPF cars cost more than the BDP. What is the reason for this.....better quality or just paying more due to the association with Shelby?
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ERA, oh, wait, that was not part of the equation/question was it
Bill S.
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11-05-2009, 10:57 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DeLand, FL,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2117; 331 stroker; TKO600
Posts: 588
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There are quite a few Superformance and BDR cars on Cobracountry. However I would be looking at the ERA's listed there as well. There are two silver 427's and a beautiful blue one. My personal choice would the the silver FIA car - really nice. Enjoy the research and I highly recommend visiting the ERA factory in New Britain, Ct (unless Patrick has heard that they relocated to South Africa?? Or Newark!!)
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11-05-2009, 11:49 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Southern Connecticut,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF - 351W, 944 non-turbo
Posts: 2,105
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If I had it to do all over again I could easily buy a BDR. My original choice was an ERA, but the extra $15,000, the used FE BB, the typical short gears and the 18 month wait for a car (may be less now) convinced me to get the SPF. 10 years later it's still running and driving well.
In 1999 there was an SPF dealer in my area (Snakepit on LI) but no BDR dealer. Snakepit had lots of rollers ready to go, and engines from 302s to Windsors to 460s. The test drive was like drugs. Life is short, why wait 18 months? The ERA does come with the extra large trunk, which is where many ERA owners store their egos.
Bob
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11-05-2009, 11:53 AM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Originally Posted by Bob In Ct
[b]... which is where many ERA owners store their egos.
Bob
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11-05-2009, 12:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DeLand, FL,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2117; 331 stroker; TKO600
Posts: 588
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Keith Craft has been offering some really good Superformance turnkey deals with a Tremec TKO and your choice of motor. Don't know whre Bob came up with 18 months for an ERA - mine was done in less than 12 and it was a turnkey (2 years ago), and I know a lot of people got theirs in less time. This is prime time of year for buying used cobras - and there are some nice looking cars on cobracountry.
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11-05-2009, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
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Buy the most car that you can afford. And be happy with it. I'm a strong believer in that you get what you pay for in life. That covers the spectrum from nice cars to cheeseburgers.
-Dean
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11-05-2009, 03:16 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#0760
Posts: 3,409
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Even the "In&Out" cheeseburgers?
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11-05-2009, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blas
Even the "In&Out" cheeseburgers?
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In&Out Burger= So Cal sliders. A lot of people love them, but there are local alternatives that I'd rather eat (and they are more expensive). Credit the In&Out people with great marketing skills. |
11-05-2009, 05:12 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
Posts: 4,097
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
In&Out Burger= So Cal sliders. A lot of people love them, but there are local alternatives that I'd rather eat (and they are more expensive). Credit the In&Out people with great marketing skills.
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Totally off topic...or maybe on topic.
Anyone ever try Jesse James' place called Cisco Burger in Long Beach?
http://www.ciscoburger.com/
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11-05-2009, 05:19 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
In&Out... A lot of people love them, but there are local alternatives that I'd rather eat (and they are more expensive). Credit the In&Out people with great marketing skills.
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I think they install the line of cars at the drive-through window when they build the places. I can't figure it out; the burgers are just so-so at best.
The absolute best burger place in the universe was here in Sacramento, and closed down unexpectedly after something like 40 years. We never even got the chance to say g'bye...
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11-05-2009, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
Posts: 3,293
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FWIW, a very attractively priced early build SPF (red) now posted here on CC. LOADS ($,$$$) of nice add-ons plus spare set of wheels/tires, front glass, etc. SB100 compliant, too (if for CA buyer). Just goes to show that you can buy a lot of car for good value if you look hard enough and are patient to seek the right one. Or are budget limited and are willing to compromise. Again, just using this SPF as an example (you could find a similarly equipped BDR if you dig deep enough or can wait until one comes around).
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11-06-2009, 12:55 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,330
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No offense to any of my SPF or BDR friends but I'd put myself in line for one of these carbon cars before either.
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11-06-2009, 01:49 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 351
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It is nice that almost everyone here likes and is a proponent of the brand they own. Anyone selling junk is likely gone from the market by now.
I love my Superformance. That's what I own, and I love it. Any of these cars will put a permanent smile on your face.
By the way, I was just checking out Olthoff's web site. Looks like they have a sale on new cars. Looks like unbeatable deals to me. Cars with MSRP of $45,000 for $38,000. Good time to buy. Buy one of these and see if you can wipe your grin off...
http://www.olthoffracing.com/
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11-08-2009, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Goshen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Gary Edwards Racing 460
Posts: 444
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[quote=TButtrick;998984]No offense to any of my SPF or BDR friends but I'd put myself in line for one of these carbon cars before either.
Bet you swallow a lot of bugs in that ride My wind shield looks lke an old bug zapper after a summer drive. Would you wear a helmet with that set up?
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11-06-2009, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,330
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That's one nice SPF there Jack. And an impeccable taste for color I might add. 
Last edited by TButtrick; 11-06-2009 at 02:27 PM..
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11-06-2009, 03:40 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 351
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TButtrick
That's one nice SPF there Jack. And an impeccable taste for color I might add.
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Thanks!! That picture was taken the day after I bought the car. I was driving home down the Blue Ridge Parkway with my wife. Notice the smile on my face. It is there every time I am around the car.
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01-09-2012, 06:26 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance/427 Sideoiler
Posts: 10
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I will not get into which is better Backdraft or Superformance, they are both fine automobiles, and when they are similarly equipped they cost about the same. That is sort of like the Ford Chevrolet arguments. Actually both of these fine automobiles come out of South Africa. I have been to the Backdraft sales office in south Florida, and have visited many of the Superformance dealers in several states. Here is a link to the Backdraft site stating they are built in South Africa, we all know Superformance is from the same location. I too will buy American at all times when possible.
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01-09-2012, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
Posts: 3,044
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Wading through the funnies here I don't think anyone has mentioned the interior differences. When I was doing my due diligence before buying, both SPF and BDR were on my scope as were a few others. I wound up going to the London Cobra Show back in 06 just to look at and try on a number of manufacturers. I highly recommend that show BTW. Being one of substantial size and girth, how the interior fits me could have been a deal breaker and as it turns out it was. I sat in quite a few cars and it went something like this:
SPF with no mods = No way for my fat azz
SPF with "Big Boy" mods = OK but still quite uncomfortable
ERA (don't know mods) = No way
FFR (don't know mods) = No way
BDR No mods = Mmmm, maybe so, not bad at all
BDR With chubby guy seat (thanks ROUSHAC!) Aaaahhhhh, this is it!
There were many details of the SPF at the time that I really liked, such as the 8.8 rear, but ultimately I just didn't fit into an SPF and bought a BDR from Jay at Vintage. I haven't looked back since. 
Steve
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