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Old 12-03-2009, 05:35 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJCFBTZ07w

Check out this video. Test was done at 18MPH if my calculations are correct.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:46 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJCFBTZ07w

Check out this video. Test was done at 18MPH if my calculations are correct.
18mph -- that's pretty sobering. Especially if think of the side impact protection that most of our Cobras have....
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:25 PM
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Ok Ill bite.

Lets paraphrase for the sake of clarity:

"Don’t get mad, but SPF's, are more likely to fail, because their owners are less competent, and casual (read lazy?) than those that buy ERA's. Kirkham and Shelby owners are equally incompetent, but their obvious wealth makes them appear, at the very least, not as lazy."

Another pearl of wisdom from the "Better than thou" ranks of the ERA owners association.

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Sigh.. What is it about owning an ERA that seems to breed the hyper inflated egos and rampant narcissism? It's as though they are completely blind to their own unbridled pompousness.

A rope? That shows a total lack of commitment and imagination.

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Old 12-04-2009, 02:07 PM
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OK, I've sat on the side lines long enough. This thread first came out as inquisitive, then turned informative, then has gone crapative. I bought SPF 968 used a few years ago because I WANTED a product with some sort of quality control when manufactured. And also with some mileage so most bugs were shaken out. If I was to have my wife riding next to me, it had to be one of the safer manufacturers, at least in my mind.

After talking months with the Dallas group (with damn near every brand represented), this was the brand I wanted, and lucky enough to afford. I don't consider myself lazy, I wanted a manufacturer that had history, warranty, community, and reliability. I know I made the right decision.

Lordy, I own, maintain, upgrade, and race my '65 Mustang. I don't consider myself lazy....Geeze.

Let's right this ship (thread), and discuss pro-active means of solving and assisting. You guys need to quit throwing folks under the bus..................
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There are some fanatic ERA owners and some fanatic SPF owners, who cares what anyone on this forum says, there is no, zero, nada accountability. It is for entertainment purposes only. Everyone getting bent out of shape go take a cobra ride, I learned a long time ago when you sell you car you sell it to ONE person, not a group, not an opinion. For what is worth SPF in REALITY is PERCEIVED to be the best fiberglass replica on the market. In reality SPF's has Shelby licensing stamp, I dont give a fuk that everyone on this forumn thinks it is worthless in reality it is adds value to the car.

ERA owners on the other hand have to kick or scream or everyone forgets about them because they do not have the capacity to fab more than 20? cars a year. Great for them they know their limitations, but they are no Superformance. Oh that did feel good, and yes I am always right LOL!!!!

I am not lazy but I sure dont like doing work I have paid other to do.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:45 PM
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Ok Ill bite.

Lets paraphrase for the sake of clarity:

"Don’t get mad, but SPF's, are more likely to fail, because their owners are less competent, and casual (read lazy?) than those that buy ERA's. Kirkham and Shelby owners are equally incompetent, but their obvious wealth makes them appear, at the very least, not as lazy." Jason
OK, I'll admit it. I'm incompetent and lazy.

If I were wealthy, then I'd be buying a Ferrari California Spyder 250 GT at auction for $10MM and not caring that it lost 1/2 it's value in the past year and a half.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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OK, I'll admit it. I'm incompetent and lazy.
You couldn't be and own a Kirkham... well, I suppose if you inherited a fortune or hit the lottery then that may be the case.
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get back in the game, i liked the old you a lot better, your recent post are so not you anymore!!!! have they changed your medication?
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:44 PM
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get back in the game, i liked the old you a lot better, your recent post are so not you anymore!!!! have they changed your medication?
Well this thread did start out as a pretty serious one. I certainly wouldn't want to make light of anything where somebody actually got pretty well banged up. Not to mention the fact that, after the last few threads, it seems like my humor was irritating more people than it was entertaining -- and it seemed like it was bordering on getting out of hand. But thanks for the kind words.
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the fact that this gentleman lived through this horrible experience is a miracle...........
there were 2 people who lost there lives in a accident just a couple of mounths ago in California in a Cobra...........
which brand is the best????????????who really knows for shure.........
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:07 PM
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Lets paraphrase for the sake of clarity:

"Don’t get mad, but SPF's, are more likely to fail, because their owners are less competent..."
If you're going to paraphrase, at least do it accurately. If you'd done so, you'd find nothing at which to take offense.

The key word you omitted is "some."
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ERA? Never heard of them...

I would venture that most any vehicle would sustain substantial damage in the same scenario.
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For what is worth SPF in REALITY is PERCEIVED to be the best fiberglass replica on the market.
Perceived by whom and by what measure? Do you mean the best reproduction made from fiberglass that best replicates the real deal? ERA is the best fiberglass replica on the market... period.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:23 AM
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I would venture to say that a car designed around OEM parts would be less likely to have fasteners that are improperly torqued, or that fail due to poor design. Many Cobras are designed around Production suspension components, and I would guess that they are designed with the same mounting and tightening specs. But the purpose of "fiberglass" is to aide areodynamics, and look pretty. In an accident, the fiberglass body is written off. A steel tube chassis however, will unfortunaltly hold up too well in most cases, not absorbing the impact of the crash to protect the occupants. There should be no debate of how these cars perform in a crash (they will not do great). The issue here is that they shouldn't fall apart and crash you into a tree.
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Perceivd by me and my money is the short of it. The long of it after owning one for two years and analysing the suspension design, one designed for a superformance and not taken from another and made to work on a cobra is one reason. Second after attending numerous car shows have not see one that comes close to fit and finish, third, after driving and experiencing it rock solid feel, no rattles, no sagging doors, no panel rubs, optimuim driver ergonomics, fourth, after intial bugs worked out bullit proof reliability, i have not laid a wrench on it in a year except for checking bolts and nuts which I found so tight I was lucky I did not bust a knuckle. True the mirror on the fender is a useless POS. Oh an dealer network is second to none and numerous throughout the country.




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There I am getting all defensive and not answering your question. LOL. The best cobra replica out of fiberglass. Never owned an aluminium or driven one so it may be better than those too but cant say. It is the best fiberglass Cobra replica. I dont care how much it replicates the original as long as the body lines are 90% true. It is a FAKE, just like every other replica. They are all FAKE, even the Kirkhams. Who cares in the end it is the drivability fit and finish in that order. If it doesnt drive well might as well by a picture and hang it on the wall.
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Perceivd by me and my money is the short of it. The long of it after owning one for two years and analysing the suspension design, one designed for a superformance and not taken from another and made to work on a cobra is one reason. Second after attending numerous car shows have not see one that comes close to fit and finish, third, after driving and experiencing it rock solid feel, no rattles, no sagging doors, no panel rubs, optimuim driver ergonomics, fourth, after intial bugs worked out bullit proof reliability, i have not laid a wrench on it in a year except for checking bolts and nuts which I found so tight I was lucky I did not bust a knuckle. True the mirror on the fender is a useless POS. Oh an dealer network is second to none and numerous throughout the country.
Got it. Just wanted to make sure I understood that your perception is reality. Good grief.
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ERA is the best fiberglass replica on the market... period.
I disagree, Contemporary is the best fiberglass replica ...But wait, isn't a Fiberglass CSX4000 series really the best replica on the market.


I miss my Contemporary Cobras.............



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There I am getting all defensive and not answering your question. LOL. The best cobra replica out of fiberglass. Never owned an aluminium or driven one so it may be better than those too but cant say. It is the best fiberglass Cobra replica. I dont care how much it replicates the original as long as the body lines are 90% true. It is a FAKE, just like every other replica. They are all FAKE, even the Kirkhams. Who cares in the end it is the drivability fit and finish in that order. If it doesnt drive well might as well by a picture and hang it on the wall.
MadMaxx,

After reading your comments on this thread, I "know" I made the right decision in getting my SPF2925 "Rogue". She is a beauty and I have compared her to other makes at car shows, hands down "Rogue" kills them in every aspect. I have her three trophies to prove it! She is three for three and soon she should have more under her belt!

Thanks from another proud SPF owner and fellow Texan!
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.....But wait, isn't a Fiberglass CSX4000 series really the best replica on the market.

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no no no Bill .... they are the real ones ....
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