wrecked SPF on eBay - Page 4

RedBarchetta · #1 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Dang, Gunner... if I had posted something that sounded like that the SPF owners would be throwing a rope over a tree branch and hunting me down by now.

Don't fool yourself...we still are.

Gunner's commentary was actually well-framed and makes sense. I too believe that those with minimal mechanical skills are more prone to purchase a ready-made car. Without having "built it yourself" expertise, there are several components on these vehicles that even the average shade-tree mechanic might have difficulty with. DIYers have an inherent advantage, accordingly.

That doesn't make their cars any more safer, as each build is only as good as the guy turning the wrenches. But I would be willing to bet that, on average, a guy that builds his own car has a considerably more thorough knowledge of what it takes to maintain it and is more likely to put the extra ongoing maintenance effort into it. And to add to that statement, the far majority of Cobra accidents (as reported on sites like CC) are the result of driver errors rather than mechanical deficiencies.

-Dean

patrickt · #2 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 01:54 PM

That makes sense, Dean. You're probably right.

Tony Aprile · #3 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

Don't fool yourself...we still are.

Gunner's commentary was actually well-framed and makes sense. I too believe that those with minimal mechanical skills are more prone to purchase a ready-made car. Without having "built it yourself" expertise, there are several components on these vehicles that even the average shade-tree mechanic might have difficulty with. DIYers have an inherent advantage, accordingly.

That doesn't make their cars any more safer, as each build is only as good as the guy turning the wrenches. But I would be willing to bet that, on average, a guy that builds his own car has a considerably more thorough knowledge of what it takes to maintain it and is more likely to put the extra ongoing maintenance effort into it. And to add to that statement, the far majority of Cobra accidents (as reported on sites like CC) are the result of driver errors rather than mechanical deficiencies.

-Dean

I agree...with ready made cobra's...there are many more..."Guys with Cars" then there are actual "Car Guy's"...and when you finally string him up....let me know...I'll be there !!!

patrickt · #4 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

...and when you finally string him up....let me know...I'll be there !!!

C'mon Tony, you could at least put a wink or smilie after that.

Silverback51 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

I agree...with ready made cobra's...there are many more..."Guys with Cars" then there are actual "Car Guy's"...and when you finally sting him up....let me know...I'll be there !!!

Sorry, I'm not going to be able to make it,

so if someone could get pictures or a video I would appreciate it.

D-CEL · #6 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 01:25 PM

Ok Ill bite.

Lets paraphrase for the sake of clarity:

"Don’t get mad, but SPF's, are more likely to fail, because their owners are less competent, and casual (read lazy?) than those that buy ERA's. Kirkham and Shelby owners are equally incompetent, but their obvious wealth makes them appear, at the very least, not as lazy."

Another pearl of wisdom from the "Better than thou" ranks of the ERA owners association.

"GoodAsReal"

Sigh.. What is it about owning an ERA that seems to breed the hyper inflated egos and rampant narcissism? It's as though they are completely blind to their own unbridled pompousness.

A rope? That shows a total lack of commitment and imagination.

Relentless, unforgiving, patient.
What I do, I will do well.

Jason

Gunner · #7 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Dang, Gunner... if I had posted something that sounded like that the SPF owners would be throwing a rope over a tree branch and hunting me down by now.

Happy to draw fire for a fellow GoodAsReal driver.

puppster · #8 (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 05:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJCFBTZ07w

Check out this video. Test was done at 18MPH if my calculations are correct.

patrickt · #9 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by puppster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJCFBTZ07w

Check out this video. Test was done at 18MPH if my calculations are correct.

18mph -- that's pretty sobering. Especially if think of the side impact protection that most of our Cobras have....

LuvDaBlues · #10 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 02:07 PM

OK, I've sat on the side lines long enough. This thread first came out as inquisitive, then turned informative, then has gone crapative. I bought SPF 968 used a few years ago because I WANTED a product with some sort of quality control when manufactured. And also with some mileage so most bugs were shaken out. If I was to have my wife riding next to me, it had to be one of the safer manufacturers, at least in my mind.

After talking months with the Dallas group (with damn near every brand represented), this was the brand I wanted, and lucky enough to afford. I don't consider myself lazy, I wanted a manufacturer that had history, warranty, community, and reliability. I know I made the right decision.

Lordy, I own, maintain, upgrade, and race my '65 Mustang. I don't consider myself lazy....Geeze.

Let's right this ship (thread), and discuss pro-active means of solving and assisting. You guys need to quit throwing folks under the bus..................

madmaxx · #11 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 02:25 PM

There are some fanatic ERA owners and some fanatic SPF owners, who cares what anyone on this forum says, there is no, zero, nada accountability. It is for entertainment purposes only. Everyone getting bent out of shape go take a cobra ride, I learned a long time ago when you sell you car you sell it to ONE person, not a group, not an opinion. For what is worth SPF in REALITY is PERCEIVED to be the best fiberglass replica on the market. In reality SPF's has Shelby licensing stamp, I dont give a fuk that everyone on this forumn thinks it is worthless in reality it is adds value to the car.

ERA owners on the other hand have to kick or scream or everyone forgets about them because they do not have the capacity to fab more than 20? cars a year. Great for them they know their limitations, but they are no Superformance. Oh that did feel good, and yes I am always right LOL!!!!

I am not lazy but I sure dont like doing work I have paid other to do.

TButtrick · #12 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

For what is worth SPF in REALITY is PERCEIVED to be the best fiberglass replica on the market.

Perceived by whom and by what measure? Do you mean the best reproduction made from fiberglass that best replicates the real deal? ERA is the best fiberglass replica on the market... period.

madmaxx · #13 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 07:01 AM

Perceivd by me and my money is the short of it. The long of it after owning one for two years and analysing the suspension design, one designed for a superformance and not taken from another and made to work on a cobra is one reason. Second after attending numerous car shows have not see one that comes close to fit and finish, third, after driving and experiencing it rock solid feel, no rattles, no sagging doors, no panel rubs, optimuim driver ergonomics, fourth, after intial bugs worked out bullit proof reliability, i have not laid a wrench on it in a year except for checking bolts and nuts which I found so tight I was lucky I did not bust a knuckle. True the mirror on the fender is a useless POS. Oh an dealer network is second to none and numerous throughout the country.

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Originally Posted by TButtrick

Perceived by whom and by what measure? Do you mean the best reproduction made from fiberglass that best replicates the real deal? ERA is the best fiberglass replica on the market... period.

TButtrick · #14 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

Perceivd by me and my money is the short of it. The long of it after owning one for two years and analysing the suspension design, one designed for a superformance and not taken from another and made to work on a cobra is one reason. Second after attending numerous car shows have not see one that comes close to fit and finish, third, after driving and experiencing it rock solid feel, no rattles, no sagging doors, no panel rubs, optimuim driver ergonomics, fourth, after intial bugs worked out bullit proof reliability, i have not laid a wrench on it in a year except for checking bolts and nuts which I found so tight I was lucky I did not bust a knuckle. True the mirror on the fender is a useless POS. Oh an dealer network is second to none and numerous throughout the country.

Got it. Just wanted to make sure I understood that your perception is reality. Good grief.

madmaxx · #15 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 01:23 PM

My perception is MY reality!!!!! not yours. We all have to much time on our hands!!! Dont any of you guys have some insider trading information? A new challenging problem we need to solve with your car be it Cobra, or other. A home repair project needing advice.

QUOTE=TButtrick;1006952]Got it. Just wanted to make sure I understood that your perception is reality. Good grief.[/quote]

mrmustang · #16 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TButtrick

ERA is the best fiberglass replica on the market... period.

I disagree, Contemporary is the best fiberglass replica

...But wait, isn't a Fiberglass CSX4000 series really the best replica on the market.

I miss my Contemporary Cobras.............

Bill S.

Doug I · #17 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang

.....But wait, isn't a Fiberglass CSX4000 series really the best replica on the market.

Bill S.

no no no Bill .... they are the real ones ....

mrmustang · #18 (**permalink**) 12-05-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug I

no no no Bill .... they are the real ones ....

Are you sure...It is so difficult to tell the difference in what is and what is not "Real"(tm) these days

Bill S.

madmaxx · #19 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 03:03 PM

patrictkt

get back in the game, i liked the old you a lot better, your recent post are so not you anymore!!!! have they changed your medication?

patrickt · #20 (**permalink**) 12-04-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

patrictkt

get back in the game, i liked the old you a lot better, your recent post are so not you anymore!!!! have they changed your medication?

Well this thread did start out as a pretty serious one. I certainly wouldn't want to make light of anything where somebody actually got pretty well banged up. Not to mention the fact that, after the last few threads, it seems like my humor was irritating more people than it was entertaining -- and it seemed like it was bordering on getting out of hand. But thanks for the kind words.