Oil change and other changes

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

Sorry...just feeling giddy after driving my car the entire weekend.

Well, I'm jealous. It's brutal here. The kids have't gone to school since I don't know when, there's feet of snow everywhere, there's no place for the dog to crap, I had to put a wicker basket out for the mail man because he can't even get up to the porch where the mail box is, when you do get off the street idiot pedestrians are walking down the middle of the street, 10' piles of snow on the corners block your vision. It basically just sux.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by patrickt

...10' piles of snow on the corners block your vision. It basically just sux.

Yeah, but the bright side is at least the Redskins can't play.

[RodKnock]

So, let me get this straight. I have a 9 quart Aviaid pan, about .75 quart in the oil filter and about .5 quart in the oil cooler lines and I should fill it back up with only 6 quarts in the pan and .75 in the oil filter, thereby leaving my system 2.75 quarts under capacity?

Why is 7 quarts the right number? Why not 6 or 8?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Why is 7 quarts the right number? Why not 6 or 8?

Because Chas. says so. If you want to ask intelligent questions, then keep them to yourself.

[ERA Chas]

No. Sorry if I didn't make this clear.

Assuming you do not evacuate your entire system:
Drain and refill your pan with 7 qts. Remove your filter and put .75 qt in the new one. You already have .5 qt in your lines, plus at least .5 qt in your cooler. Your system now contains 8.75 qts-at least. Draining a pan leaves maybe 2 pints in the pan unless you lean the car over on the stands. Your cooler may hold more depending on whose it is. My Earls is .5 qt. Where is Euclid when you need him?

C'mon-I said you were a pretty bright guy...

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Where is Euclid when you need him?

Uhhh, you don't need Euclid on this one. With Aviaid, 9 qts. means 9 qts. Rod, pull the drain plug, use your jack to tilt the car in the direction of the hole, let it drain until it quits dribbling, then if you put 8 quarts in the filler hole I bet your level on the dipstick will then be right on the "add one quart" line of your stick. Aviaid doesn't screw around with "system volume" and the like, nor do they confuse you with the quart in the filter, etc....



INITIAL OIL PAN FILLING AND DIP STICK MARKING PROCEDURE

We rate our oil pans for static level in the pan. This is the quantity of oil that will fill the sump up to about the underside of the hard tray bolted into the pan. We recommend that the 1st time you fill the pan in the car, with the car flat on the ground and the pan empty, you add 1 quart less than the advertised number of quarts and mark the stick. Add 1 more quart and mark the stick again. This is a high-low marking procedure. Then start the engine. Let everything pressurize and fill, shut the engine down, and let everything drain down for a few minutes. Then add oil to bring the level back to the top mark on the stick, noting how much oil is required to fill the pan back up to the top mark. The total of the added oil plus the initial fill will give you system capacity. This now includes lines, filter, cooler, whatever. From that point you can adjust level to suite your requirements. Some will run a little more, some a little less, depending on usage.

Source: http://www.aviaid.com/pdfs/pan_dip_stick.pdf

[ERA Chas]

This must be the truth for YOU Rod, because Karnak used REALLY BIG LETTERS to yell at me. This must suite(sic) your requirements.

The rest of us have Cantons which taper up to the crank at the rear (unlike yours) and we'd have oil on the passenger floor if we did that.

It would run perfectly with 9 total in it...

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

This must be the truth for YOU Rod, because Karnak used REALLY BIG LETTERS to yell at me. ... It would run perfectly with 9 total in it...

Actually, I was tempted to just allow you to repeatedly give Rod the wrong advice, but that goes against the spirit of this forum. Not to mention the fact that even Rod was starting to spot it as bogus.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

No. Sorry if I didn't make this clear.

Assuming you do not evacuate your entire system:
Drain and refill your pan with 7 qts. Remove your filter and put .75 qt in the new one. You already have .5 qt in your lines, plus at least .5 qt in your cooler. Your system now contains 8.75 qts-at least. Draining a pan leaves maybe 2 pints in the pan unless you lean the car over on the stands. Your cooler may hold more depending on whose it is. My Earls is .5 qt. Where is Euclid when you need him?

C'mon-I said you were a pretty bright guy...

Well, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. If we're talking about the Zen of the Triangle Offense and the artfulness of the 1-3-1 half court zone trap defense, then I'm your man, er, coach.

I won't be evacuating my entire system. Drain pan and oil filter. Pan takes 9 quarts and oil filter about one or less. As Got The Bug and Patrick mentioned earlier, I will add .75 or whatever to the filter and 8 quarts to the pan. Start and run and then check it later. Add to full line. Ta Da!