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03-29-2010, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Heck, maybe even some ERA's. 
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I bet they just left 500 lbs. worth of parts off your car. 
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03-29-2010, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I bet they just left 500 lbs. worth of parts off your car. 
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They only put ONE ton of aluminum on his car... 
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Chas.
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03-29-2010, 04:56 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Patrick, how much does that 2nd roll bar, all the duct tape and HVAC insulation add in weight?
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That's not duct tape, that's black electrical tape.... remember?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
They only put ONE ton of aluminum on his car... 
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It is not my imagination. You are indeed more clever this year than you were last year. 
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03-29-2010, 04:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Give up, Ernie. Just admit that IRS setups are a waste of money.  You will never, never change anyone's opinion.
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03-29-2010, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Give up, Ernie. Just admit that IRS setups are a waste of money.  You will never, never change anyone's opinion.
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The true test of character is... how we behave when we don't know what to do.
- John Holt
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03-29-2010, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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I'll tell you what I know. Yes, not much.
But! I've been to several "Vette Magic" drag races and shows, both at the old Baylands in Fremont and Sacramento, its current location. I've seen plenty mid-year Vettes with IRS's: a) torque steer and b) blow up their open and posi rear ends. u-joints here there and everywhere.
Patrick, how much does that 2nd roll bar, all the duct tape and HVAC insulation add in weight?
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03-29-2010, 05:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by charlandk
Going with a Roush 427 sr/tw and T56 tranny, would you go with an open rear end or LSD and why?
Thanks,
Kevin
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Kevin,
If for no other reason, then resale value. The next guy will probably want the LSD. Eventually, you will either sell it and buy something else or sell it and buy a Cobra that's even "more better."
Now I'm kinda curious if my 328 with the Sport suspension has an LSD, though I haven't been able to break the tires loose yet in it.
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03-29-2010, 06:48 PM
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Actually there appears to be a healthy debate underway about how GOOD BDR's are with an open diff, on another thread. "Over there" I have followed my good mentors lead (thank you Pat) and am doing my best to confuse, thwart and baffle those who would dare oppose my view point.
The crux of the argument appears to be that an open diff is safer than an LSD, which is true of course. But then begs the question: You want "safe" and 500 plus horse power in a 90" wheel base car? OOKKKK then.... 
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03-29-2010, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
I have followed my good mentors lead (thank you Pat) and am doing my best to confuse, thwart and baffle those who would dare oppose my view point.
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I've been following it. I think it's time to taunt him with a butt-salute. 
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03-29-2010, 07:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
Actually there appears to be a healthy debate underway about how GOOD BDR's are with an open diff, on another thread. "Over there" I have followed my good mentors lead (thank you Pat) and am doing my best to confuse, thwart and baffle those who would dare oppose my view point.
The crux of the argument appears to be that an open diff is safer than an LSD, which is true of course. But then begs the question: You want "safe" and 500 plus horse power in a 90" wheel base car? OOKKKK then.... 
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You should try 92" 
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03-29-2010, 08:51 PM
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OK, 92" then, dam, I've been tracked down and busted by "da man" even over here. Quick, where's Pat when you need him? 
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04-01-2010, 11:12 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
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The Lincoln Versailles had a 9 inch with disc brakes with a parking brake that rodders liked, but not a IRS--that was later with an 8.8
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04-01-2010, 11:39 AM
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whats the differance between 3 " of travel in a foot long drive shaft compared to 3" of travel in a 12" half shaft???
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04-01-2010, 12:58 PM
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... is that one of those "Guy walks into a bar..." questions?
The other guy ducked.
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04-01-2010, 01:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
... is that one of those "Guy walks into a bar..." questions?
The other guy ducked.
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Naah, it's more like " a horse walks into a bar..." and the bartender says " why the long face?"
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04-01-2010, 01:03 PM
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No Ernie---but it does draw attention to the fact that 3" of travel with a solid axle car with 12" driveshaft has about same angular differance as an IRS rear with 3" of travel and 12 " half shafts
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